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***The Official Q6600 Overclocking Thread ***

Any luck with the OC -BA- ?

@BA, are you running 4 sticks of ram? id so increase the northbridge voltage

what speed are you at now?

edit found some reading for you
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/339757-overclocking-help-q6600-evga-680i.html
or
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/325092-evga-750i-***-overclock-thread.html
its for a 750i board but most of the settings are the same
or guide with bios pics
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/328951-my-750i-***-overclocking-guide.html
 
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Hi Atheos. Sorry not posted, been a little tied up. Have overclocked to 3.24GHz but had to ramp up the CPU voltage to about 1.45v. I must confess I haven't put it back on P95 but I have played Crysis on extreme settings and had that running over the weekend for 7-8hrs. Also Rift has been stable whereas that had originally been causing reboots prior to pushing up the CPU voltage.

2 sticks of ram by the way.
 
best i have managed to get stable from mine has been 3.33ghz at present, but just fitted a a new TRUE 120 cooler so as soon as the thermal paste beds in a bit i will go for more.

currently 370x9 / 1.4v (BIOS) / Mem 888mhz / 1.9v
 
Hi Atheos. Sorry not posted, been a little tied up. Have overclocked to 3.24GHz but had to ramp up the CPU voltage to about 1.45v. I must confess I haven't put it back on P95 but I have played Crysis on extreme settings and had that running over the weekend for 7-8hrs. Also Rift has been stable whereas that had originally been causing reboots prior to pushing up the CPU voltage.

2 sticks of ram by the way.

That is great news -BA-.


I changed my OC to 400x8, Ram linked and sync'd so the ram runs at its proper speed of 800.

Ran prime for 3 hours and a few hours of Bad Company 2 last night with no issues.

I must do an all night P95 run soon to really test it.
 
That is great news -BA-.


I changed my OC to 400x8, Ram linked and sync'd so the ram runs at its proper speed of 800.

Ran prime for 3 hours and a few hours of Bad Company 2 last night with no issues.

I must do an all night P95 run soon to really test it.

its upto you regarding prime, but i would class yours as stable, congrats.
now why dont you raise your ram speed? lol
mine are 800mhz stock, but i have mine at 990mhz:D
 
its upto you regarding prime, but i would class yours as stable, congrats.
now why dont you raise your ram speed? lol
mine are 800mhz stock, but i have mine at 990mhz:D

Thank you j.col :)

I never really thought about oc'ing my ram. It was good ram and i am sure i read that it can oc to 1066, so i may give it a go soon.
 
Well looks like [email protected] is the maximum I can push on air:cool:.

Load Line Calibration (LLC) Enabled

Bios Vcore = 1.4V
Idle Voltage = 1.360V
Load Voltage = 1.360V

For [email protected]

Theoretical Maximum GFlops = 4 cores x 4 Flops/per core/per cycle x Cpu Speed = 4 x 4 x 3.5 = 56GFlops (Double-Precision)

Actual Real World ~ 46.3GFlops (Very High)

Thermal Compound: IC Diamond

It was a warm afternoon with ambient around 20C

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So it is true that as you go beyond [email protected] in IBT, you need to have either a very good air cooler or need custom water cooling as Q6600 tends to generate immense heat at those overclocking speeds especially when approaching the golden speed of 3.6Ghz.

Ofcourse it depends on motherboard aswell if it is a high phase or low phase plus case cooling.

I have read people as saying that lower VID Q6600s tend to run hotter than high VIDs counterpart. Why is that?

All in all I am very happy with the results and Q6600 certainly is a very good overclocker and a 1.1 Ghz overclock is impressive under Intel Burn Test :cool:
 
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You have a better than average Q6600 there, infact I would go as far as saying that is a very good Q6600... do you know what batch (FPO) ID? pulls similar voltage to my old Q6600 with the same vid could be a L373B..

I would suggest that CPU will hit 3.8ghz with decent air cooling... not sure what sort of air cooling you have on it atm.. but 75c with that low voltage I would check the mounting if its high end air you should be running cooler
 
You have a better than average Q6600 there, infact I would go as far as saying that is a very good Q6600... do you know what batch (FPO) ID? pulls similar voltage to my old Q6600 with the same vid could be a L373B..

I would suggest that CPU will hit 3.8ghz with decent air cooling... not sure what sort of air cooling you have on it atm.. but 75c with that low voltage I would check the mounting if its high end air you should be running cooler

Thanks:cool:

My Q6600 batch no: L720B060

I have been reading your air overclock thread and there are few things I would also like to point out about core temperatures.

I always use IBT now to check cpu stability as it stresses the cpu more than prime95. In IBT the aim is to get GFlops as high as possible, ideally close to theoretical maximum.
High GFlops means cpu is processing/executing the system of linear algebraic equations in the form of matrices by means of Gaussian elimination method faster thus it is carrying out more work and hence generating more heat as a result.

High GFlops also means cpu will need more vcore to stabilise.

My main specs are in my sig and the cpu cooler is Thermalright IFX-14 which is a dual tower high end heatsink and the ancestor of thermalright silver arrow.







I have attached two 120mm Akasa Viper fans to IFX-14 as seen in the pics above. Now it's rated cfm is 83.63 which is meant to be high. However in real world tests at 12v it only managed about 32 cfm lol as seen in this review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/120mm-fan-roundup-2_15.html#sect0

The Vipers are still very good fan but I am not sure of what to make of the cfm.The only fans that give high airflow are the delta fans. But they are noisy at full speed.

Another thing is that IFX-14 heatsink base isn't flat but rather slightly convex in the middle to provide greatest pressure at the centre of cpu IHS.
I did participate in IC Diamond testing and here is my post with all the details including my PC system and the IFX-14 mounting procedure.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18814406&postcount=291

IC Diamond is sending me the pressure and contact measuring kit so it can be determined how much pressure my heatsink exerts and what is the contact pattern like on the cpu IHS.

If the base isn't flat but convex, this could mean that the base ends aren't exerting enough pressure on cpu IHS and thus the heat transfer by pipes isn't fast enough and still a lot of heat is concentrated at the base. In other words the heat accumulates at the base faster than it can be transferred away by heatpipes onto the heatsink fins hence temps are still higher.

If I do lap my heatsink base, I may well need 1 or 2 washers underneath the mounting system to have the same pressure exerted on cpu IHS as in the case of convex base. I think you also did something similar by placing a large washer underneath your lapped true heatsink.

Finally it is well know that Asus P5Q Deluxe having a 16 phase voltage regulator is the best skt 775 motherboard. Many people have managed to overclock [email protected] with only modest voltage increases from stock voltages or VIDs.
Unfortunately my mobo GA-EP45-UD3LR is a strip-down version of the famous Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P and is a 4 phase mobo with a passive heatsink over the northbridge.
During running my computer, the northbridge gets very hot and it's heatsink isn't as effective as the one on P5Q Deluxe.

Another factor is that there is always 7-8C difference between the hottest cores and coolest cores. I have mounted my heatsink many times and still this difference exists. I suspect this is due to Q6600 not being a native quad core but rather is a two E6600s joined together in one package. So it is most probable that one E6600 naturally heats up more than the other.

So as you can see there are many factors which may well be preventing me from achieving even higher overclock bar IBT testing which I have discussed above:cool:
 
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@WingZero30
i know this is not for this thread, but i am talking to a friend of mine about IBT.
he has an i7 950 @4.0Ghz at 49gflops and says this is correct.
and yet your Q6600 above has 46gflops :confused:

can you work out what his gflops should be.

going by your previous posts
theoretical Maximum GFlops = 4 cores x 4 Flops/per core/per cycle x Cpu Speed = 4 x 4 x 4 = 64GFlops this is maximum gflops

but reading here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/645392-how-run-linpack-stress-test-linx.html ( i believe you posted this link a few pages back)

it says
The following is the estimated GIGAFLOPS for a few chips:

E5200 @ 3 GHz 19-20 GIGAFLOPS
E8400 @ 3 GHz 21-22 GIGAFLOPS
E9550 @ 4 GHz 54-56 GIGAFLOPS

I5 quadcore @ 4 GHz 59-61 GIGAFLOPS
I7 quadcore @ 4 GHz 60-62 GIGAFLOPS
Gulftown 6core @ 4 GHz 90-93 GIGAFLOPS

what am i doing wrong, or is the above scores the max gflops.
 
@wingzero30
i know this is not for this thread, but i am talking to a friend of mine about IBT.
he has an i7 950 @4.0Ghz at 49gflops and says this is correct.
and yet your Q6600 above has 46gflops :confused:

can you work out what his gflops should be.

going by your previous posts
theoretical Maximum GFlops = 4 cores x 4 Flops/per core/per cycle x Cpu Speed = 4 x 4 x 4 = 64GFlops this is maximum gflops

but reading here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/645392-how-run-linpack-stress-test-linx.html ( i believe you posted this link a few pages back)

it says
The following is the estimated GIGAFLOPS for a few chips:

E5200 @ 3 GHz 19-20 GIGAFLOPS
E8400 @ 3 GHz 21-22 GIGAFLOPS
E9550 @ 4 GHz 54-56 GIGAFLOPS

I5 quadcore @ 4 GHz 59-61 GIGAFLOPS
I7 quadcore @ 4 GHz 60-62 GIGAFLOPS
Gulftown 6core @ 4 GHz 90-93 GIGAFLOPS

what am i doing wrong, or is the above scores the max gflops.

Assuming he doesn't use hyperthreading his i7@4Ghz will give maximum value of 64GFlops.

IBT is a double-precision (64 bit) program so it is always 4 Flops with mutli-add operations.

So for i7@ 4Ghz (Quad core)

4 cores x 4 Flops x 4Ghz = 64Gflops

49/64 = 76.56% which is still high enough.

For any dual core you just replace 4 cores with 2 cores and for single core it is 1 core.


E5200@3Ghz

2 cores x 4flops x 3Ghz = 24GFlops

Those values you quoted I believe are the real world predictions by Perspolis in his case. So it doesn't apply to everyone as each case is unique.

Your friend should be able to get over 50GFlops by choosing custom and tweaking memory or closing some background programs. As xsisitor, another fellow ocuker stated, it depends on the algorithm aswell and how well it is optimised for cpu processing. The algorithm in IBT or LinX is the LinPack algorithm/program:cool:

The greater an algorithm is optimised the greater output from cpu will be in basic terms. Hence in real world we can never achieve the theoretical maximum but can only try to get as close as possible.
 
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Another thing I noticed during IBT testing is that if your ram speed is faster than your cpu FSB, your GFlops will be slightly higher by about 1GFlops more as higher ram speed somehow compensates for ram latencies.

I ran my cpu and ram in 1:1 ratio and GFlops were slightly lower by about 1GFlops. So I always tend to have ram speed faster than FSB speed :).
 
Was your True base convex or uneven? Also what loading program are you using?

I was lucky enough to pick up a pre lapped true so was nice n flat :)

Been loading it with prime, orthos, hyper pi 1 MB upwards with 4 simultaneous calculations, 1 per core and 3dm vantage runs ( about 4 odd in a row as I clocked gfx cards)
 
I was lucky enough to pick up a pre lapped true so was nice n flat :)

Been loading it with prime, orthos, hyper pi 1 MB upwards with 4 simultaneous calculations, 1 per core and 3dm vantage runs ( about 4 odd in a row as I clocked gfx cards)

You are lucky:cool: Try running IBT on it and see what temps you get.

Here is the contact pattern of my Thermalrght IFX-14. It is convex in the centre.

ifx14basecontactpattern.png


It needs lapping. Then my temps will be hopefully lower.
 
+1 for lapping, my TRUE black had a terrible base, convex and covered in machine marks, lapping and adding a couple of better fans led to a temp drop from 81c to 68c, (highest cores) on my q6600 at 3.8ghz. Lapped using 400, 600, 800 1200, 1500 and finally polished of with 2000 grade grit, cpu was lapped as well which accounts for some of the drastic temp drop. Only got to test it with p95 as ibt/LinX werent out at the time.
 
+1 for lapping, my TRUE black had a terrible base, convex and covered in machine marks, lapping and adding a couple of better fans led to a temp drop from 81c to 68c, (highest cores) on my q6600 at 3.8ghz. Lapped using 400, 600, 800 1200, 1500 and finally polished of with 2000 grade grit, cpu was lapped as well which accounts for some of the drastic temp drop. Only got to test it with p95 as ibt/LinX werent out at the time.

Wow that is impressive!!:cool: 13C drop. I wish I can have same temp drop if I lap.

Can you get all those different grit sandpapers in one pack? Also how did you lap them? Did you place some soap water and then moved the heatsink/cpu back and forth and letting the weight of those items do the work. This seems to be the suggested method.

If you did move the heatsink back and forth, was it only in one direction or did you change direction periodically?

Also how long did the whole process take?
 
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