*** The Official Samsung Galaxy S4 Thread ***

I didn't, I said....

"The vast majority of apps will work better on a higher clocked quad core (like the snappie) than a lower cloked 'octo' -core (like the Exynos)."

and tried to further explain that notion further by also saying in another post that...

"A single threaded application will run better on a 3GHz single core processor than it will on a dual core 1.5Ghz CPU."

The first is directly about the two CPUs to be used in the S4, the second is an example on the same subject but using a different scenario.

The salient piece of information you seem to be missing is that the four cores of the Exynos are clocked at 1.6GHz, the four cores on the snapdragon are clocked at 1.9GHz. So the snappie would be faster with any application that isn't optimised to use more than four cores (which is pretty much all of them).

Lol.
 
I think the iPhone 4/4s/5 are clear cut proof that the numbers don't really mean anything. The iPhone 5 only has a dual core chip at a lower clock than the likes of the S3 yet still performs just as good if not better in some areas, and vice versa.
 

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I think the iPhone 4/4s/5 are clear cut proof that the numbers don't really mean anything. The iPhone 5 only has a dual core chip at a lower clock than the likes of the S3 yet still performs just as good if not better in some areas, and vice versa.

That's because iOS doesn't actually do very much, no widgets to worry about, no (true) multitasking etc.
 
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That's because iOS doesn't actually do very much, no widgets to worry about, no (true) multitasking etc.

They use different processors. If they were clocked the same speed the Exynos would be faster, and going by what's been reported the Exynos is still faster at 300MHz slower.

Just look at Intel and AMD's desktop processors.
 
They use different processors. If they were clocked the same speed the Exynos would be faster

And if my aunt had gonads she'd be my uncle.

, and going by what's been reported the Exynos is still faster at 300MHz slower.

Just look at Intel and AMD's desktop processors.

I have seen what's been 'reported' but as far as I'm aware there are no benchmarks for the Exynos yet.
 
So you think AMDs are faster than Intels? :D.

Depends on the models, not that I agree with your analogy. We're talking about Snapdragon vs Exynos in mobiles, not AMDs vs Intels in desktops.

Anyway this bechmark test of the latest Snadragon vs latest Exynos seems to disprove your assumptions (and in this case the Snappie only has a 100MHz advatage not 300 like in the S4)...

http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-vs-exynos-4412-benchmarks-127274/

Qualcomm did a good job in creating a fiery beast. Based on the benchmark test results, the Snapdragon S4 Pro blew its fiery flames on Samsung’s Exynos 4412.
 
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I'm replying to you, talking about people that don't read the forums. You said that "most people know it's 4+4", I don't think 'most people' do, hence my clarification.



No I didn't, I said....

"The vast majority of apps will work better on a higher clocked quad core (like the snappie) than a lower cloked 'octo' -core (like the Exynos)."

and tried to further explain that notion further by also saying in another post that...

"A single threaded application will run better on a 3GHz single core processor than it will on a dual core 1.5Ghz CPU."

The first is directly about the two CPUs to be used in the S4, the second is an example on the same subject but using a different scenario.

The salient piece of information you seem to be missing is that the four cores of the Exynos are clocked at 1.6GHz, the four cores on the snapdragon are clocked at 1.9GHz. So the snappie would be faster with any application that isn't optimised to use more than four cores (which is pretty much all of them).



Fair comment but this whole battery saving thing is an assumption right now. As far as I'm aware there are no benchmarks or much information for it so anything on battery savings is speculation at the present.



But it does mean you shouldn't put off buying the phone or choosing another out of spite cause you wanted the octocore (which is some of the replies my original comment was aimed at).
You need to consider IPC not just clock frequency dude.
 
Depends on the models, not that I agree with your analogy. We're talking about Snapdragon vs Exynos in mobiles, not AMDs vs Intels in desktops.

Anyway this bechmark test of the latest Snadragon vs latest Exynos seems to disprove your assumptions (and in this case the Snappie only has a 100MHz advatage not 300 like in the S4)...

http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-vs-exynos-4412-benchmarks-127274/

Lol, the Exynos 4412 has been out a long time :/.
 
Does it really make a difference in everyday use? I doubt it. The software aspects are more important for most people.
 
I hate it when people woffle on about crap they clearly know nothing about!

Never mind... either way this is going to be an awesome phone and apparently I'm now on T-Mobiles special list, though I'm probably going to leave them for 3 anyway :p



EDIT:

The 3 website has now changed to "1.9GHz Quad-core AP" so it's pretty much official then! Snappy!
 
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Sarge will sort you two out! :p :D

How about some numbers?

Integer performance at advertised clock speeds.

Snapdragon 600 at 1.9GHz: 25080
Exynos 5 Octa at 1.6GHz: 25664
(35,000 with A7 cluster)

Core performance per architecture:
Cortex A15: 4.01 DMIPS/Mhz
Apple Swift: 3.5 DMIPS/Mhz
Krait: 3.3 DMIPS/Mhz
Cortex A9: 2.5 DMIPS/Mhz
Scorpion: 2.1 DMIPS/Mhz
Cortex A8: 2.0 DMIPS/Mhz
Cortex A7: 1.9 DMIPS/Mhz


Performance loosely compared to other CPUs without power limitations.

Intel Core i7 2600K: 128,300
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition: 43,000
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (Dual core): 27,000
Samsung Exynos 5 Octa at 1.6GHz: 26,000 (35,000 with A7 cluster)
Snapdragon 600 at 1.9Ghz: 25,000
AMD E-350: 10,000


Maximum power consumption at advertised clock speeds.

Snapdragon 600: 3-4W+
Exynos 5 Octa: 4-5W+

Ideal CPU power consumption: 1W (<60 deg device temp)
Current maximum peak for flagship phones: 1.5W-2W max (> 60 deg device temp, can lead to high power consumption without optimised code, see Nexus 10)

Peak performance at advertised clock speeds = very unrealistic.
 
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