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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I am surprised TBF. Even the console version seems to be OK:
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Starfield - Xbox Series X/ Xbox Series S - Performance & Graphics Breakdown

The analysis you've been waiting for. We're planning to deliver a much more in-depth technical review for Starfield but we're kicking off with answers to som...
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DF people seem to say it is CPU heavy,which is what I kept telling people in the GPU section it would be. The consoles can hold 30FPS until they hit the cities,where they can hit just under 30FPS.

Me and @KompuKare run the Fallout 4 benchmark thread and Fallout 4 performance could tank in settlements. Its quite clear Papyrus scripting or the equivalent Creation 2 uses,can push CPUs.
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Not sure why you think scripting has anything to do with it its drawcalls hence precombines/previs introduced in FO4 and cpu intensive shadows that are the killer as as rule I've no idea about SF but I'd be surprised if they're absent
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Not sure why you think scripting has anything to do with it its drawcalls hence precombines/previs introduced in FO4 and cpu intensive shadows that are the killer as as rule I've no idea about SF but I'd be surprised if they're absent
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Well if that is the case,then Starfield is acting in a weird way for people. Reviewers have shown that areas outside cities with large expansive areas and larger draw distances are more GPU limited. Considering these are spacescapes which are generating shadows,etc then they have done something different in Creation 2(not surprising if we look at Fallout 76 from a technical side).

Bethesda is making its largest ever cities with Starfield with lots of NPCs.This was shown by lots of reviews talking about CPU performance being an issue in cities with Starfield,especially if you turn up the NPC density and in intense firefight scenes with NPCs!

Just like in Cyberpunk 2077 you can turn down NPC density if you have a weaker CPU. In fact quite a few games can have issues with loads of NPCs:
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Baldur's Gate 3 Act Three massively hits CPU performance - but why?

Shortly after our main Baldur's Gate 3 content 'dropped' last week, I noticed a range of comments suggesting that the f…
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So, what's so special about the third act? Put simply, it's all about density, with the action shifting to the city of Baldur's Gate itself, a large city in the series lore, with many NPCs. In my core review last week, I noticed that mid-spec PCs struggled in more populous areas and just running through the city demonstrates that the NPC count here is significantly higher. The density here adds considerably to the CPU burden - and I think it amplifies other issues as a result, not visible in our initial work.
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People get too obsessed with the graphics side of the engine,which is a problem. It is a problem but so is the scripting for NPC AI and automation in the game and after 8 years it's easy to test out. In Fallout 76,they addressed some of the issues with draw distances and shadows. If you played the game,you will notice it can render far greater distances than in Fallout 4 which had to cull details very quickly. The exterior lighting system is also changed. Fallout 76 shadow distance rendering on Low is 3X Fallout 4 on Ultra(IIRC)! It runs far better compared to Fallout 4 in this regard.


Fallout settlements have a hard limit with NPCs in game for a reason because there are limits which Bethesda puts on the Papyrus system so it doesn't get overtaxed(if it does it literally will skip to the next task if it times out), and its woefully not upto the task. If there was no CPU limitation,and it was only down to rendering then they wouldn't be doing this. You can actually test this in the game. This is why I expected,after the changes with Fallout 76,things such as NPC scripting,etc would be the next concern.

Anyway,we can agree to disagree and leave it at that!
 
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mrk said:
1hr 5 mins!
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I was so tempted to stay up and play this as I have it pre-loaded but I've got a kitchen to finish fitting tomorrow or the Missus will probably castrate me with a blunt spoon! You know what they say, "Happy Wife, Happy Life!" Or we could do what you do and send them away for a few weeks! :D I really do hope you don't have any large, freshly dug holes in your back garden. :)
 
MartinPrince said:
I was so tempted to stay up and play this as I have it pre-loaded but I've got a kitchen to finish fitting tomorrow or the Missus will probably castrate me with a blunt spoon! You know what they say, "Happy Wife, Happy Life!" Or we could do what you do and send them away for a few weeks! :D I really do hope you don't have any large, freshly dug holes in your back garden. :)
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Its at times like this that its very unfortunate that "husband" doesnt rhyme well with anything :)
 
CBA really to get out of bed. I thought I'd create a character and test general performance. Might get inspired.
 
Really? Do you guys have it on steam? as not available to me yet and no installs or anything happening
 
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