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Jono8 said:
If the CPU resource hogging is due to all the endless object clutter,
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It isn't, if you spawn thousands of objects, the CPU usage doesn't change, if you spawn tens of thousands, then the engine just stutters and CPU and GPU usage tank right down, as opposed to going up as you would expect if the CPU was trying to calc all the physics of the new items spawned.. It's a lack of optimisation in the engine.
 
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ICDP said:
Wow, any game that gives me more than 20 hours of gameplay I consider money well spent. I am at 60ish hours and decided to progress the main story now.
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Well, there were people who said you had to put in at least 12-20 hours before it got good.

I wouldn't be happy paying full price for it if I only got 20 hours out of it, that's for sure. Compared to a game like Skyrim, which I put hundreds of hours into at a time when money was going further, I'd need at least that from Starfield to not feel like a step backwards.
 
mrk said:
It isn't, if you spawn thousands of objects, the CPU usage doesn't change, if you spawn tens of thousands, then the engine just stutters and CPU and GPU usage tank right down, as opposed to going up as you would expect if the CPU was trying to calc all the physics of the new items spawned.. It's a lack of optimisation in the engine.
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Oh.

Well i have no idea what it is doing then that is so cpu intensive compared to other games. Even when uncapped being used at "100% usage" my 4070ti is barely pulling ~200w and the fans arent bothering to come on. There is something definitely a bit ***** going on.

However, for the most part, performance is adequate i guess, even at 1440p all ultra. It should just be a lot higher for the level of visuals on offer. Ideally i'd like to not notice any slight drops below my 72fps cap in the big cities, but i think the cpu optimisation is just not up to it.

I played it on my mates Series X the other day....yikes :(
 
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mrk said:
Driver 537.13
Average framerate : 107.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 103.8 FPS
Maximum framerate : 111.4 FPS
1% low framerate : 80.1 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 67.6 FPS

Driver 537.34
Average framerate : 109.8 FPS
Minimum framerate : 106.4 FPS
Maximum framerate : 113.6 FPS
1% low framerate : 86.6 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 74.1 FPS

Just like before with the profile inspector manual enabling, minimal difference on a 4090.
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Re: 537.34

Nvidia did specifically say in the notes:

[Starfield] Profile updated for Microsoft Store/Xbox Game Pass version [4266797]
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Anyone who has the gamepass version noticed a big difference with this driver?
 
Screeeech said:
It just feels like there should be so much more to do.

In Elite Dangerous - I used to spend hours on end floating around astroid fields in my type-9 scanning, mining and admiring the views - whilst keeping a lookout for nasty players or NPCs, especially in resource rich zones, was a great feeling of being "out there" then a huge sense of accomplishment, when I'd make it back to the station with 500000 tons of Palladium that I'd sell for 100M Credits or whatever..

With Starfield it feels like the only reason I enter my ship, is because it's docked at a space port and I can't fast travel from there, for anything else - I'm just standing outside > go to map > select system and press "jump", then when I arrive in the system, press the map button, select the surface landing side, then press "land"...

Although the worst, most annoying thing - is when you jump into a system and there's 3x pirates literally flying towards you shooting, within 1-2 seconds of you loading into space... So you're already taking damage before you can even do anything, it's **** - I just turn space combat to "very easy" now, so I can just get out of it as fast as I can.
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I think people generally expected a bit more from the space portion of the game and hence feeling let down a bit.

I did not expect too much and it still under delivered. Lol.

Some were comparing it StarCitizen and I was saying don't expect that or you will be disappointed.
 
VincentHanna said:
Re: 537.34

Nvidia did specifically say in the notes:



Anyone who has the gamepass version noticed a big difference with this driver?
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Hmm that's interesting actually, does this then indicate that the Gamepass version had lower perf vs Steam version out of the box, which Rebar upliftss? This could explain why rebar on for myself and others has little to no difference for the Steam version.
 
TNA said:
I think people generally expected a bit more from the space portion of the game and hence feeling let down a bit.
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I can see the problem if I'm honest. I'm a mega sim player - did over 1k hours in ED, and 1k hours in DCS-A10C and other sims..

Having a sim-like experience, is generally going to be far too much for most players, and getting the balance right with anything less - is going to probably result in it being dull, which is what they ended up with.

I honestly think, they should have continued with the space theme - let you build your own ships etc, but make the space portion maybe a bit more like FTL, not trying to make you a pilot - but more like a captain, telling your NPCs what to do - something that has a gameplay loop in it, but it's not just moving a cursor around a screen.

I don't know... I just feel that there was a better way, rather than trying to make a full-fat sim which would be too much for most people, or a watered down thing which is just crap.
 
Finding out i can get
powers
while doing the main quests has changed the game up abit for me, its changed the way i play the game now and made it quite abit more fun! Making me wonder what other powers are available cos thats a huge pallet for powers i doubt i can get them all in one play through. Plus i think you can upgrade them too?
 
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mark43 said:
@Jay85 Yeah, that's why I've suggested to people a couple of times not to hold off on at least starting the main quest line.
Would suggest maybe spoiler tag there though.
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done lol

Yeah im kinda glad i did save up the main quest cos i got to explore loads of other things while holding off but then i could have had some fun with the mobs i killed with it.
 
TNA said:
I saw that mission when buying my ship last night at neon in the Ryujin HQ :)

Did not accept the mission as I fancy doing the ranger missions now. But will get back to it later for sure. I have seen ships with 4000+ cargo. Plus you have a interdimentional backpack so you carry it all yourself anyways :D
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if i return with less than 5k hes not there, i know you can setup a mining machine and storage, aint got that far as of yet.

Update

You can do it in parts I just tried again phew just need to get a mining machinery
 
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VincentHanna said:
Re: 537.34

Nvidia did specifically say in the notes:



Anyone who has the gamepass version noticed a big difference with this driver?
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On my desktop (Ryzen 7600 @ 5.4PBO / RTX 4070) I have seen no material difference between the previous driver and the new one. I was specifically testing in the Lodge / Embassy district of New Atlantis (which IO have been found to have the worst performance so far) so maybe there are some improvements elsewhere that I haven't seen yet. Generally hovering around 45-60 FPS with 4k, DLSS @ 70% and a mixture of Med and High settings.

Found a nice balance on the Ally which hits a pretty consistent 30FPS in the same area as above with settings at 1080p, FSR2 @ 65% and a mixture of low and medium settings. Using this area as it seems to have the worst performance I have experienced so far across PC, Handheld and Xbox.

As it stands I would just play on Xbox but the combination of 30FPS and what appears to be an overall soft image (per DF it should be resolving 1440p to 4K but doesn't look like that vs my PC - which is resolving ~2680x1512) puts me off.
 
mark43 said:
@Jay85 Yeah, that's why I've suggested to people a couple of times not to hold off on at least starting the main quest line.
Would suggest maybe spoiler tag there though.
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How many main quest missions do you recommend that we do? 5? 10? İ could do that maybe after finishing being the ranger :D
 
TNA said:
How many main quest missions do you recommend that we do? 5? 10? İ could do that maybe after finishing being the ranger :D
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Im doing Vanguard right now, done the initial UC stuff but then stopped to go off world for some exploring. 70 hours later im back in UC doing Vanguard lol. Done Ranger stuff which was fun!
 
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I am still playing it and I am enjoying it a bit more as it opens up/I level up.

It is still a solid 7/10 for me though due to its many flaws.

I think to take themselves forward for a potential Starfield 2, they need a better game engine, and some better writers. I think it could just all together be a bit more grown up and realistic (from a writing perspective) - It has a mature/18 rating anyway so i think they may as well.
 
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On the fence, some reviews say 95% brilliant, but others like PC Gamer gave it an extremely meh 75% saying many of the planets are dull and even the bigger planets are bland or underwhelming and the characters uninteresting, identical etc. Does not sound like ‘Skyrim in Space’.


I presume it is really somewhere between both extremes but is it really worth it at full price now?
 
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Rezident said:
On the fence, some reviews say 95% brilliant, but others like PC Gamer gave it an extremely meh 75% saying many of the planets are dull and even the bigger planets are bland or underwhelming and the characters uninteresting, identical etc. Does not sound like ‘Skyrim in Space’.


I presume it is really somewhere between both extremes but is it really worth it at full price now?
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I would definitely say the PC Gamer/IGN scores and reviews are pretty much spot on.

It isn't a bad game, and if you like RPG's/Space themed games i think there is a lot of fun to be had.

It certainly isn't anywhere near a 10/10 game though. I dont think that is even an opinion really - i think it is objectively not.

If it were me, and you are not sure, i would get a cheap gamepass key and try it out
 
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