***The Official Starfield Thread*** (As endorsed by TNA)

[Tombstone]

Amazing how many people worship some random strangers on the internet and need them to provide validation for their own views.

Sometimes it reaches almost godlike status, like Totalbiscuit but then again, I guess, we're all just random strangers on the internet

 

[lovelyhead]

Surely not within a few weeks of its release though? 76 was panned so badly that loads of folk I know avoided it. I only bought it recently and was really enjoying it until Starfield came out.

I'll go back to 76 at some point, probably the same way I went back to FO4 and the same way I'll go back to SF in the coming years.

I get there are issues with SF but it's still good enough for me to sink 40+ hours so far into it.

Finally got the affinity thing with Andreja, took me ages. I've been doing the Ryugen line but the sneaky sneaky thing isnt for me really, I also forgot to leave Andreja for the sabotage one....big mistake as she is busy shooting guards when I'm trying to sneak.

Fallout 76 is better than it used to be but it is still a pretty meh game. I think most people agree it is one of the weakest games Bethesda have released. I put a few hours into it recently and thought it was kind of boring (I sense a recurring theme here).

I think that a vocal minority of people think Starfield is the best thing since sliced bread but the silent majority probably think it is kind of average and that is reflected by it having a similar score to Fallout 76.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I think that a vocal minority of people think Starfield is the best thing since sliced bread but the silent majority probably think it is kind of average and that is reflected by it having a similar score to Fallout 76.

I don't think they are trying to push "its the best thing since sliced bread". They are saying its fun despite its flaws,and then you can't accept it and keep needing to beat the same old drum again. On Steam over 70% of gamers find the game good enough to vote it positively and that is with the review bombing happening because of annoyed PS5 owners:

Starfield is Being Review Bombed

Bethesda's brand-new open world sci-fi RPG Starfield is being review bombed by users on review aggregate sites.

gamerant.com

There are instances of people buying the game,dumping a negative review and refunding it.It was the same with Hogwarts Legacy.

 

[TNA]

I think what has driven me to keep playing Starfield is the complete disconnect of the majority of reviews at release vs my initial impressions of the game. People saying that this game is a 10/10 game of the year contender whilst I was scratching my head at how awful the setup and writing was in the opening hour. Then hearing how the game gets better after 10 hours. So I keep on playing, yet it doesn't get better. I am now so far in I may as well just finish the main storyline.

Thing is your still making the same mistake. You keep playing the main story. Take advice given here and go explore and do faction side quests. Go do the ranger one, many here have said it is good.

If I just played the main story I might be disappointed like you also.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Thing is your still making the same mistake. You keep playing the main story. Take advice given here and go explore and do faction side quests. Go do the ranger one, many here have said it is good.

I I just played the main story I might be disappointed like you also.

He is is determined to be disappointed!

Honestly if I find a game not for me,I will stop playing it and move on. I tried Fallout 76 for a bit years ago, and didn't bother going back to it because it was too much of a grind IMHO(and no NPCs at launch). It wasn't my cup of tea.There are some on here who have played it for years:

**** Official Fallout 76 Thread ****

Bethesda have been teasing us for a little while with the typical "Please Stand By" graphic all over social media. But today, they unleashed a teaser trailer for a new Fallout game coming this year, ahead of E3! Bethesda.net news: https://bethesda.net/en/dashboard Official teaser trailer...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

 

[lovelyhead]

Thing is your still making the same mistake. You keep playing the main story. Take advice given here and go explore and do faction side quests. Go do the ranger one, many here have said it is good.

I I just played the main story I might be disappointed like you also.

I think I might play the side quests in new game plus.

I have heard many people say that the side quests are way better than the main story but how can a game with a bad main story, where story is an important part of the game, get a 10 out of 10? If you ever want to finish the game you are going to have to play through the main story. If most of the reviews had been similar to IGN's 7 out of 10, I think wouldn't care as much.

 

[lovelyhead]

He is is determined to be disappointed!

I have to be mindful of this sort of mindset. I don't think that is my mindset though. I went into the game excited and looking forward to it. I don't want games to be bad.

Usually I will drop a game very quickly if I don't like it but Starfield has kept me coming back for more in the same way you watch a "so bad it is good" movie.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I have to be mindful of this sort of mindset. I don't think that is my mindset though. I went into the game excited and looking forward to it. I don't want games to be bad.

Usually I will drop a game very quickly if I don't like it but Starfield has kept me coming back for more in the same way you watch a "so bad it is good" movie.

I went into the game with neutral expectations because its a new IP and I expected performance oddities and bugs. Hence why I decided to try this on Gamepass first.So far on the first point,I need to put more than the 30~40 hours I put into the game,to assess the universe and gameplay mechanics - I have barely touched the main storyline so far. I have not even built a settlement. On number two,Bethesda Games studio did not disappoint and on number 3 they did better than expected!

With Fallout 4 I have put over a 1000 hours into it - because like with Skyrim I wondered off and started doing my own thing!

 

[Drollic]

I think I might play the side quests in new game plus.

I have heard many people say that the side quests are way better than the main story but how can a game with a bad main story, where story is an important part of the game, get a 10 out of 10? If you ever want to finish the game you are going to have to play through the main story. If most of the reviews had been similar to IGN's 7 out of 10, I think wouldn't care as much.

Have you not yet worked out that reviews are just an opinion some of which can be swayed with incentives like money? It's 2023 and people are still using IGN. Alien isolation 5.9 by the way

 

[Neil79]

 

[PitterPatter]

I do think it is bad. From my playthrough of the main quest so far there has been only one single interesting mission and they just ripped that off from TitanFall 2. Bethesda didn't even manage to get that right as it is easier to just run past all of the enemies rather than engaging them.

Stop playing the main mission. Asap.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Have you not yet worked out that reviews are just an opinion some of which can be swayed with incentives like money? It's 2023 and people are still using IGN. Alien isolation 5.9 by the way

 

[Felon]

ffs this is stupid.

Just flying along looking at a planet screwing around, then an NPC ship jumps into view right in front of me, the bullets are coming out of his ship before he's even fully appeared and I'm already taking damage.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

 

[lovelyhead]

Have you not yet worked out that reviews are just an opinion some of which can be swayed with incentives like money? It's 2023 and people are still using IGN. Alien isolation 5.9 by the way

The thing is the IGN score for Starfield is close to what the average player thinks about the game if SteamDB is anything to go by.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The thing is the IGN score for Starfield is close to what the average player thinks about the game if SteamDB is anything to go by.

Steam is still affected by players picking up a copy,negative reviewing and then refunding. Just look what happened at Hogwarts Legacy. It got reviewed bombed everywhere. Fallout 4 also got review bombed to well under 7/10 because of Creation Club. Now its back over 80% again.Cyberpunk 2077 got review bombed a few times:

Cyberpunk 2077 Is Receiving Mass Negative Reviews After Steam Awards Win

Many still seem upset about the disastrous launch.

www.dualshockers.com

The latest one over a Steam award!

Also with DLSS now being officially incorporated I expect there will be a number of negative reviews being changed too.

In the end I think you are obsessively trawling websites to find a reason not to play the game. I think Fallout:New Vegas is better than Fallout 4 or Skyrim,but I played the latter two games far more. The reality if a game is fun I play it and if it is not fun I stop playing it.

I have too many games in my games libraries to bother wasting time on games I don't find fun to play. Fallout:London is out in Q4 too,so I want to play that,so I might need to put Starfield to a side for a bit when it comes out.

 

[BUDFORCE]

Fallout 76 is better than it used to be but it is still a pretty meh game. I think most people agree it is one of the weakest games Bethesda have released. I put a few hours into it recently and thought it was kind of boring (I sense a recurring theme here).

I think that a vocal minority of people think Starfield is the best thing since sliced bread but the silent majority probably think it is kind of average and that is reflected by it having a similar score to Fallout 76.

By the sounds of it you just don't like Bethesda's RPG style, so you wont like Starfield because it's basically the same thing.

Each to their own, lots of games people love and I don't get them at all.

 

[JonRGV250]

That’s brilliant!

 

[BUDFORCE]

The inventory management needs to be a bit more straightforward imo.

It doesn't seem consistent as some inventory types are pooled between ships, some are not. And then sometimes they are transferrable between enitities (eg ship to personal or ship to vendor) but sometimes not, depending on where you are.

It seems they are not pooled between outposts, and I haven't quite figured out where the resources are taken from when using them up for building, or what invetory pool they are taken from.

Now, setting up outpost to outpost resource sharing is possible but pretty complicated, and although I know its possible, I am personally stuck trying to figure it out. I setup to cargo transfers on two seperate outposts, in the same system. I linked them, but I cannot figure out now how they actually work.

 

[Jono8]

By the sounds of it you just don't like Bethesda's RPG style, so you wont like Starfield because it's basically the same thing.

Each to their own, lots of games people love and I don't get them at all.

I'm not so sure it is due to the style/it being a Bethesda game.

As an example, I have played and enjoyed Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4, and the start of Starfield is by the far the weakest and most poorly written game opener they have ever come up with. It is just weak. It doesn't have the awe of coming out of the prison and into the beautiful outside (alongside that exquisite music) like in Oblivion. It doesnt have the tension and emotion of the Nuclear attack/family/vault of Fallout 4.

The opener of Starfield has no emotional impact and no real sense of tension or wonder. It just left me thinking - "What?"