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That one point is mute as you do not understand the history of cig
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It may well be but it does not invalidate the point of the post that the two games shouldnt be compared because they are so different. The only reason for anyone to attempt to compare them is down to a bias of trying to push whichever of the two is their chosen game.
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But why do many people compare the two?
You don't ever see people compare cod to f1.
Why? Because that is what you call two different genres with nothing similar between the two games yet there is many similarities with sc and sf such as :
Fully exportable planets
Resource gathering.
Fps combat
Ship combat
Ship flying
Hero cities
Pve missions
Flight suits
In game economy(although sc is basic but will go beyond what sf does in this regard)
Multiple planets and moons
Things that will later be in sc that is in sf
Base building
Ship modularity
Full npc mission givers
Board and breech enemy ships
Multiple star systems
Character skills
Crafting
There's probably a lot more that @humbug and Co could add to this.
Now try and make a list similar to the above regarding f1 and cod...
Then you will understand why so many are comparing sf and sc whilst no one is comparing cod and f1
110000%, this is just like the Age of Wonders thead where people honed in on 'Age of' and started comparing to Age of Empires which is absolutely nothing like it. Some critical thinking wouldn't go amiss.
You could make a similar list for Hell Let Loose and Call of Duty but you would be a bit of a doofus to compare the two, despite being able to drum up a list of things that are in Hell Let Loose which are also in Call of Duty because the different genre, different target userbase etc
Someone else said it's like comparing Arma to a Battlefield game. I've owned Star Citizen since 2012 and it's not been installed in years. Just feels like a buggy mess, and way more 'sim' than game. Hope Starfield is slanted further to the Freelancer side than the ED or SC side
I think its a gamer thing, gamers just love to draw battle lines and then argue over which side is best, anything to reinforce in their mind that the side they choose is the better one. I look at things much more objectively and can see when things are different enough to make comparing them invalid and to see that neither side is a threat to the other.
But they are both in space with the word star in the title??
Ones already a citizen where as the other is living in a field apparently.
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So I ask again. Why do many compare sf and sc and don't look like doofus?
You are not giving any actual formal reasons why.
You first of all compare and mention the two budgets even though that has nothing to do with comparing the actual games features and you even did not understand why the budget for two games plus 4 to 5 new offices was half a billion dollars..
Your reasons for not comparing the two are vague and misleading without forming actual reasons why they are soo different and stupid to compare.
You also then fail to answer why many people are comparing these two games and no one is comparing cod and let loose...
I honestly think it is because there has been a lack of AAA sci-fi/space/futuristic games in the sort of RPG genre.
There could be ones I'm not aware so feel free to name them but I think the last one was Mass Effect Andromeda (2017). No idea when the last good one was. Maybe MAss Effect 3 back in 2012.
Edit: the outer worlds might count but I'm yet to play it.
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See post 667. Also, I expect the fact many have sunk so much money into skins for a game that doesn't exist in a releasable state might have a little factor in it.
If I was to take a stab at why people compare the two, I would say its because people who are invested in Star Citizen get very touchy (not without justification perhaps) at how often people take potshots at them for Star Citizen and at how often Star Citizen becomes the butt of so many jokes and that touchiness makes them get overly defensive when anything threatens Star Citizen or when anything appears to give more fuel on the Star Citizen is a joke sort of fire...and that then causes those people to feel that they have to defend the choices they've made toward Star Citizen and so comparison videos and posts appear in order to show that they've been wiser in backing the "better" game. Imo, its a defensive reaction to the constant barraging they've put up with over Star Citizen.
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Nope, you be surprised. not many have spent beyond the first starter ship. at a push maybe an extra ship like a cutty black but thats about it and that would cost less than the premium suber uber addtion of SF
I wouldn't be, never in my life have I seen micro transactions for a game that hasn't even been released. Again, can't compare, Starfield is actually being released, the other is a demo with microtransactions available. I recall when I tried Star Citizen, what was it, £60 I think for the base 'game' and the FPS part. Would be good value tbf if both were finished.
Lest us not forget people who went all in and spent £800+ on Virpil/thatotherbrand joysticks and setups just for SC. I was tempted myself at one point until I got a grip.
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This, long time Star Citizen backer. i don't see Star Field as any sort of threat to Star Citizen, i think they compliment eachother, i will be buying Star Field, and i will probably enjoy it, along side Star Citizen.
The more of these type of games we get the better.
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Thats quite a lame reason.
Give a actual reasonable reason instead of that lol.
Its the general public that are comparing the two.
Why? because they both offer similar things as a whole
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I wouldn't be, never in my life have I seen micro transactions for a game that hasn't even been released. Again, can't compare, Starfield is actually being released, the other is a demo with microtransactions available. I recall when I tried Star Citizen, what was it, £60 I think for the base 'game' and the FPS part. Would be good value tbf if both were finished.
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Which game right now at the time of posting can you actually download and play?
Not Starfield....
Point is, yes SC is a pre alpha but it can be played now and to call it a demo is laughable considering that this so called demo has more gameplay and features then most so called "released games"....
The microtransaction is a useless argument as well because every flyable ship can be earned in game....
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Its certainly a more "Complete Game" than Elite Dangerous Odyssey. Apparently that's a released game.
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Well, I am sorry to disappoint but I am not going to give a reasonable reason because I dont think that any reason, beyond the ones I've already given, are going to be good enough for you. Truth be told, I'm quite surprised that this has even gone this far, you seem to have really blown the whole comparison thing to incredible proportions imo. Its actually a bit bizarre to me, even given gamers tendency to seek arguments in every corner.
However, so steadfast is your attitude that comparing Star Citizen and Starfield as similar games is valid , that nothing I say will sway your mind on that and I would simply be wasting my own time to try to do so. If it helps the argumentative gamer in you, I concede that you are completely correct, they are easily comparable games and Starfield is lacking in its features compared to Star Citizen. I was very wrong to suggest that the two games are too different to accurately compare.