The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Also it's quite hilarious to see some of these "OSINT" accounts crying.

Pro Ukraine apparently means its ok to hate all thing Russians and revel in the death of innocent people who are on the opposite side.

How quickly peoples so called moral values dissappear.

Also I don't understand how people resort to hating someone for just having a different view from them on one topic.

Speaks volumes about there character.
Come on then, spit it out - you are pro Trump, pro Elon and pro Russia?
 
Go OCUK.

(well most of it).

Well it's balanced but free speech (in a way) is limited. You can't say certain things when the platform dictates it. I guess when you click the signup button on any platform, you break their rules you get banned and it's really as simple as that. It's up to the user to read them.

That's kind of my point it's either someone making rules or free speech. I think what's worse is when AI is involved checking ALL posts for certain keywords or phrases and auto bans accounts e.t.c.

You can't have in-between IMO.
 
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Social media is vile. Full stop.

You either get too much free speach or no free speach and dictative owners on their own platform.

I don't even see a way to balance it.

It's far too social for me.

But I also suspect things would be oh so different if social media aliases were banned and you had to use your proven actual name, standing by your comments and everyone knowing who you were.
 
It appears to me and any reasonable observer that Twitter has been full of intolerance and borderline hate all through its existence. Any change should be for the better.

Tbh I'd imagine it'll only get worse. Less chance of being banned now surely?

why so many people are freaking out over this?

I assume you cna give 10 examples of freaking out? I'm yet to see anyone. People most are laughing at him being forced to buy something he didn't want to buy, or critique his decision.

I see the word freaking out used a lot but then never any examples of said freaking out.

I hope Trump does come back though. His tweets were amusing in a sort of, point and laugh way.
Indeed. He was and will be a laugh.

The funny thing is Elon said the other day he doesn't want to scare advertisers away etc etc, and one of the first things he will do is unban someone that got banned for inciting a violent insurrection. I wonder where the new bar will be for banning.
 
It's far too social for me.

But I also suspect things would be oh so different if social media aliases were banned and you had to use your proven actual name, standing by your comments and everyone knowing who you were.

Most people know who you are on Twitter, at least accounts that are well known.

Social media is fine on the whole, its just the extremes that ruin things.
 
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It's far too social for me.

But I also suspect things would be oh so different if social media aliases were banned and you had to use your proven actual name, standing by your comments and everyone knowing who you were.

To do this you would have to upload some form of ID.

I can see a problem with this. Lets say I want to sign up for an account. It asks me to upload ID. What's to stop someone elses ID been used and using their name? So in theory it's a kind of false identity and that person behind them words may not even be them.

Only other thing I can think of is video ID like what the new online only banks use.
 
To be fair to Parag he's bagged himself 8 figures for only a few months of work and delivered some incredible shareholder value (Elon has blatantly overpaid a fair bit and knows it thus the court cases), Parag may have been better off in the long run if he'd been a bit more open to change with his initial dialogue with Elon but there is plenty of risk for Elon here, would be nice to see him making a success of this acquisition but there's a reasonable chance it turns into a bit of a damp squib.

I haven’t been keeping up with this, so could anyone possibly tell me, as easy as possible, why so many people are freaking out over this?

Whats so awful about Musk owning Twitter?

Because mild disagreement or wrongthink is seen as literal "white supremacy" etc. There are people out there who, for example, fly into a rage over the latest J K Rowling tweet, not because she's some hateful bigot but rather because she's got some opinions that differ from the acceptable woke narrative on trans people (who she's openly stated on several occasions she supports). Elon's beloved anti-woke humour site the Babylon Bee was suspended for a very mild joke on this sacred cow of a topic too and that sort of thing might well change.

This sort of thing is rather unlikely though:
Free Speech Absolutist, now people can go on there and say "x and y want to kill/rape z" and nothing would happen?

Elon isn't insane, there will still be rules and obvious things you can be suspended for, the app still has to live in app stores with their own rules/standards too.

Has he fired 75% of the workforce yet, like he promised?

I haven't seen any direct evidence that he promised that, just some stories citing "sources" which seem to run contrary to what he's actually said. Of course, he already has and is going to sack some more people, that's a good thing, but 75% doesn't pass the sniff test.

On the subject of sacking, this seems like another good one:

 
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Come on then, spit it out - you are pro Trump, pro Elon and pro Russia?

What does it matter?

Do I need to be pro Ukraine to see how evil the Russian regime is? When they destroyed whole neighbourhoods in Syria and When they sent wagner mercenaries to massacre villages in Africa the silence was deafening.

Disagreement with someone's opinion does not automatically mean you endorse the other side.

We don't need to be bots and all sing to the same tune.

As much as people dislike Musk, he does believe we are all one global family.
 
It's far too social for me.

But I also suspect things would be oh so different if social media aliases were banned and you had to use your proven actual name, standing by your comments and everyone knowing who you were.

Too social? So many don't even discuss there without literally wanting to tear their throats out. Todays Internet is no longer about discussing in a calm matter. It's all extremes and interrogating. Even here has greatly changed compared to 2010. Almost every forum is the same these days with the way how they behave on twitter that has been taken to other platforms. It's also been creeping into real life behaviour because they've done it for so long that it's now the new normal.

Look how everything is a trend. The conduct has now become a trend where mostly everyone is doing it. 1 does it, then a million is doing it.

All you just have to do is have a different point of view to theirs and it all goes downhill. There's no tolerance today.
 
What does it matter?

Do I need to be pro Ukraine to see how evil the Russian regime is? When they destroyed whole neighbourhoods in Syria and When they sent wagner mercenaries to massacre villages in Africa the silence was deafening.

Disagreement with someone's opinion does not automatically mean you endorse the other side.

We don't need to be bots and all sing to the same tune.

As much as people dislike Musk, he does believe we are all one global family.
He says he believes that, but it's kind of hard to believe him when he's essentially saying that bigger countries should be allowed to just genocide their neighbours at will.
 
Too social? So many don't even discuss there without literally wanting to tear their throats out. Todays Internet is no longer about discussing in a calm matter. It's all extremes and interrogating. Even here has greatly changed compared to 2010. Almost every forum is the same these days with the way how they behave on twitter that has been taken to other platforms. It's also been creeping into real life behaviour because they've done it for so long that it's now the new normal.

Look how everything is a trend. The conduct has now become a trend where mostly everyone is doing it. 1 does it, then a million is doing it.

All you just have to do is have a different point of view to theirs and it all goes downhill. There's no tolerance today.
The thing is in 2010 people got away with saying absolute nonsense. Nowadays people are judged more critically, as let's be honest, we are a lot less anonymous on the internet than we were - so it is harder to look past peoples controversial views without thinking 'wtf - this is a real human and those are his actual views'.

My 2 cents anyway.
 
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