The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Sorry, but how did that answer any question I or Tony asked you?
I also don’t think that. I do think that by being silent on things CAN make you part of the problem but I’m not saying that’s the case here.

Why can’t you answer the questions? They are asked in good faith. We’ve had this exact exchange again where you made a statement (“most dried pastas in supermarkets aren’t vegan”) which I claimed wasn’t true and you talked around it without actually giving any evidence or proper responses. You’re doing it again. Why?

I’ll try again…
How is this advert a bad thing for preventing sexual harassment and bullying?/what is the underlying reason? Not part, not a bit, but the underlying reason.
Why did you boycott razors because of it?
I’ll add another question, what was the ad about then if it wasn’t about what it seemed to be about?

I get it you've long had a problem with me but that is mostly if not entirely your own misconceived prejudices.
 
I get it you've long had a problem with me but that is mostly if not entirely your own misconceived prejudices.
No problem with you, the absurd pasta situation was our first meeting I believe. Just don’t get why you refuse to answer these questions that you make a stand on. It’s so weird to take a viewpoint, state it, and then completely refuse to discuss it any further but are happy to talk round it. It’s just odd.

I do laugh at your arrogance thinking I have a problem with you. You’re not that important or interesting enough for me to have an opinion on you beyond your inability to discuss in good faith.
 
You saw the Gilette ad and just thought "Oh bless, look they are saying we should all stand up and stop all this nasty toxic masculinity, that's a noble thing, what an amazing brand, they deserve anyones money"..

I saw it and immediately had 2 thoughts
- What a crassly cynical and obvious attempt to jump on a bandwagon to pretend they care about people, when in actual fact they are a corporate money making machine who couldn't give a crap.. what kind of moron gets suckered in by that?
- Why are pushing this, portraying it in such an amplified way that it makes it look like the world is a patriachal tyranny rife with toxic masculinity? That's really painting an unrealistic picture of men in general, I don't think that's very constructive.


That would all be well and good, my cynicism vs your optimism is but a talking point, but then you talk to your kids and see what world view is being presented to them at school and by the media they watch and you quicly realise this distorted and over amplified view of the world is massively contributing to this huge increase in mental health issues in young people, especially anxiety.

But, the thing is, I'm not angry about it, I just don't see it as helpful.. The fact some stopped buying their products seems fine to me, it's a very 'soft' boycott, vote with your wallet is not that big a deal, that's how it works isn't it?
 
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Imagine if they made an advert highlighting the positive aspects of men, being caring husbands and fathers, working hard and being loyal and protective.. nah **** it, let's focus on the tiny minority of scumbags.
 
No problem with you, the absurd pasta situation was our first meeting I believe. Just don’t get why you refuse to answer these questions that you make a stand on. It’s so weird to take a viewpoint, state it, and then completely refuse to discuss it any further but are happy to talk round it. It’s just odd.

I do laugh at your arrogance thinking I have a problem with you. You’re not that important or interesting enough for me to have an opinion on you beyond your inability to discuss in good faith.

LOLs
 
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I haven't said the person shouldnt be banned.

In your example I'd give them a temporary ban for doing a number 2 in the house i.e. for a month.

If they came back after a month the ban would go to 6 months.

If they came back again and did the same again it would be 12 months etc. Doubling each time.

In my experience people rarely come back after a second ban. But if they did they would get a 3rd, 4th etc bans.

In Trumps case if he did another violation of the Twitter rules then it would be up to Musk if he wants to consider this Trumps 1st or 2nd offence.
On paper I like this idea.

One issue I can see, for this forum at least, is that I imagine it'd add a lot of work to manage this, in case, for every say 100 people that sign up, 1 is banned, but now they'd be back in 2 weeks, and now banned again, and then possibly back in 4 weeks, and maybe banned again and all the whole that one has signed up, a load more bannable accounts have signed up too, so the work load starts to compound.

Better for mods to say, broke the rules, bye and no longer have them to deal with as there will be new users to deal with.
 
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Imagine if they made an advert highlighting the positive aspects of men, being caring husbands and fathers, working hard and being loyal and protective.. nah **** it, let's focus on the tiny minority of scumbags.

The wierd thing is that thats how I took it. I mean literally I took it as an effort to highlight on the positive side those men were doing
I mean if standing up for someone being abused verbally, stopping one kid picking on another is not being caring and protective for example, what is?

Ie the best men were demonstrating those traits vs the poor men who were the scumbags.
Would be interesting to see how a psycologist would explain how different men can take a different message from that ad.
 
How is Twitter standing up to the loss of most of its employees? There were lots of predictions that it would fall over fairly quickly but It appears at least to still be functioning the same as ever.

It seems fine. Its maybe a little slower but I certainly cannot personally say if thats a real thing or just my perception since I am not a long term user
I only signed up for faster Ukraine news and was expecting to drop it again afterwards but I swear I am seeing more spinny circle than 6/8 weeks ago (on initial load only)
 
Imagine if they made an advert highlighting the positive aspects of men, being caring husbands and fathers, working hard and being loyal and protective.. nah **** it, let's focus on the tiny minority of scumbags.
I imagine a certain demographic would be outraged that they'd made an advert portraying men as not being 'alpha' enough.
 
How is Twitter standing up to the loss of most of its employees? There were lots of predictions that it would fall over fairly quickly but It appears at least to still be functioning the same as ever.
He's had it what 3 weeks, most reported as leaving Friday just gone.

It's not going to be instantly noticeable. When you find out in 6 months that there's been a security flaw that wasn't fixed for months due to a lack of staff, and now all your card details that you pay for twitter blue have been stolen, then you'll notice it. But that doesn't happen tomorrow. That's something that is shown in months/years etc. How often do you hear of some company that was hacked and it makes the news, and you read the hack happened 2 years ago.
 
The wierd thing is that thats how I took it. I mean literally I took it as an effort to highlight on the positive side those men were doing
I mean if standing up for someone being abused verbally, stopping one kid picking on another is not being caring and protective for example, what is?

Ie the best men were demonstrating those traits vs the poor men who were the scumbags.
Would be interesting to see how a psycologist would explain how different men can take a different message from that ad.

I imagine a certain demographic would be outraged that they'd made an advert portraying men as not being 'alpha' enough.

You know you could have hit the nail on the head. This wasnt telling men to look after their skin it wasnt telling them to get drunk or be rowdy. It was telling men to have some empathy towards others.

Maybe empathy is the problem.
 
I imagine a certain demographic would be outraged that they'd made an advert portraying men as not being 'alpha' enough.
Except all of those are traits that 'alpha' males exhibit, you seem to be under the impression that they are knuckle dragging cavemen as opposed to protectors and providers. I think you've been watching a little too much andrew tate.
 
How is Twitter standing up to the loss of most of its employees? There were lots of predictions that it would fall over fairly quickly but It appears at least to still be functioning the same as ever.
Like any tech based platform. It'll keep running fine until it doesn't.

Just takes something to go wrong and then there's nobody left to fix it, or nobody who knows how, given all the knowledge is leaving the company.
 
I guess his recent baiting of Trump is perhaps in part inspired by Trump's BS and bluster about Elon.
I'd love it if they set up Trump's account to just tweet out a link to Truth social everytime he posts.

I'm sure that would annoy Elon what's he going to do about it ban him?
 
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Like any tech based platform. It'll keep running fine until it doesn't.

Just takes something to go wrong and then there's nobody left to fix it, or nobody who knows how, given all the knowledge is leaving the company.

It will be ancillary services that go first I've been hearing about issues downloading your historical tweets and also the sms password recovery not working.

Basically anything that doesn't keep the main site up is going to be expendable for a while. I'm sure a company like Twitter will have good documentation practices but it could take them hours or days now to fix issues that would have taken minutes before
 
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Would be interesting to see how a psycologist would explain how different men can take a different message from that ad.

Yes I'd like to see this too. Why some can see the clear positive message, and others get angry and moan and cry on the Internet and boycott a frigging razor blade brand.


Maybe empathy is the problem

That and that they just are so fragile with their emotions and have no idea how to do anything other than be angry.

Poor parents to have kids like that.
 
Like any tech based platform. It'll keep running fine until it doesn't.

Just takes something to go wrong and then there's nobody left to fix it, or nobody who knows how, given all the knowledge is leaving the company.
There's so much misinformation out there regarding twitter it's unreal, I mean was it supposed to stop working a week ago as there was no one left apparently, then yesterday there would be outages etc due to traffic and so far nothing. You could argue that all the problems are cascading until it all breaks or possibly, all the folks that have left actually didn't really do much. Time will tell as with most things.
 
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Sure when you make up comments that never actually happened, then the made up stuff doesn't take place, you'll probably come to the conclusion you have.
Dam, I must have dreamed the whole twitter is going to stop working thing that was doing the rounds at the start of the week after some bloke said everyone had left.

Edit: my bad it was 4/5 days ago..
 
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