The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Colonel_Klinck said:
So you think you can just turn up at a polling station and vote without being registered and having to prove who you are at any point? And there is no Federal voting rules as each state sets the rules so they vary from state to state.

Don't call it verified then, just call it Paid and give them a different colour so everyone knows they aren't verified. I mean the word is meant to mean something or at least it should, then the **** show that happened a couple of weeks ago wouldn't have happened.
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Considering around half the states in the US don't require a form of photo ID and around a third don't require any documentation at all, yes you can literally just rock up to a polling station and vote.
 
C Kent said:
Considering around half the states in the US don't require a form of photo ID and around a third don't require any documentation at all, yes you can literally just rock up to a polling station and vote.
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From a quick search it seems over half require a form of ID. All require you to sign a sworn affidavit that carries criminal liabilities if you lie. First time voters require some form of identify to register, even if it is just a utility bill with name and address. There are exceptions in certain states for things like natural disasters (Texas)

Asking people to actually verify themselves to get a verified mark seems the sensible thing to do. How else to you stop people abusing the system?
 
trump will never be using twitter again for a couple of reasons, until comes a point he can't hack it any more because he's impulsive in nature.

His advisors will have told him that if he does, then he opens himself up to be personally sued by all the investors that he's got onboard with truth social. If he then starts using twitter they will come after him because the value of truth social will go down losing them money and people will have no reason to continue using the network anyway.

The reason he might just cave though is because twitter still has more users than truth social, and he is the kind of person that is always going on about having huge numbers so it's entirely likely he will get to a point where he personally doesn't see the numbers shift in favour of truth, and post on twitter as a result.

he's self collapsed himself multiple times and this would not be anything new.

Fun to watch unfold though.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
From a quick search it seems over half require a form of ID.
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Less than half, 13 states don't require photo ID and 16 don't require any documentation - as noted here. Some of the states with photo ID requirements have little loopholes to get out of providing it.
Colonel_Klinck said:
Asking people to actually verify themselves to get a verified mark seems the sensible thing to do. How else to you stop people abusing the system?
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Asking people to actually verify themselves to get to vote seems the sensible thing to do. How else do you stop people from abusing the system?
 
Roar87 said:
Elections are regularly challenged in the courts in America though, it's not like some new thing Trump started
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Normally reasons with some basis in reality and law.

Trump and his cohort were challenging them for things like "I heard that my friends sisters' coworkers neighbour saw something odd", it's very very telling that most/all of the cases basically got thrown out for having no basis in law and a number of the lawyers in question are now facing fairly severe penalties for putting forward cases that at best they didn't do the most basic of checks on, and at worst knew were fraudulent.
 
C Kent said:
Less than half, 13 states don't require photo ID and 16 don't require any documentation - as noted here. Some of the states with photo ID requirements have little loopholes to get out of providing it.

Asking people to actually verify themselves to get to vote seems the sensible thing to do. How else do you stop people from abusing the system?
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There is a difference between voter ID at the polling station and Voter Registration.

IIRC all US states verify you are eligible to vote as part of the registration process you go through before you can vote, so you still need to have proven you're eligible before you can even get on the list to be allowed to vote at the booth.

It's very much a Republican/right wing thin to try and claim that the only thing stopping fraud is the use of photo id at the polling booth, t's also very much a Republican thing to ensure that the forms of suitable id are as limited and hard to get as possible, for example shutting down DMV's near poorer areas as the DMV is often used to issue photo id's, or trying to claim a passport of military ID isn't suitable.

However this is going wildly off topic.
 
Werewolf said:
It's very much a Republican/right wing thin to try and claim that the only thing stopping fraud is the use of photo id at the polling booth, t's also very much a Republican thing to ensure that the forms of suitable id are as limited and hard to get as possible, for example shutting down DMV's near poorer areas as the DMV is often used to issue photo id's, or trying to claim a passport of military ID isn't suitable.
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It's very much a democrat/left wing thing to claim that photo ID would prevent voters from turning out to vote. It's also very much a democrat/left wing thing to claim the poorer elements of society lack the capability to obtain photo ID when they either drive or have an EBT card which in itself could be used as a form of photographic ID.
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However this is going wildly off topic.
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Yes, it is, but it's also amusing that people want a higher verification process on twitter than actually being able to cast a vote on election day in the majority of US states.
 
C Kent said:
Yes, it is, but it's also amusing that people want a higher verification process on twitter than actually being able to cast a vote on election day in the majority of US states.
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It's amusing you've come to that conclusion when people are merely suggesting that verified should mean verified on Twitter in a thread about, checks notes, Twitter and not the American voting system which you dragged into the conversation.
 
wesimmo said:
It's amusing you've come to that conclusion when people are merely suggesting that verified should mean verified on Twitter in a thread about, checks notes, Twitter and not the American voting system which you dragged into the conversation.
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Do you understand what, checks notes, a comparison is?
 
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