The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Dowie never denied that in the first place! Dowie literally linked to the tweet and has had this exact same conversation previously in the thread as Jono already knows!

You're acting like I'm unaware that he told *some* people to vote republican for a particular reason, and now I've "admitted" he has, that's simply not the case, I pointed this out in back on the 7th of November here:



The claim that he told *everyone* to vote Republican is incorrect, he didn't do that, I took the time to explain that to Ray too today but seemingly he ignored it and carried on acting as though I was talking about Elon doing so "immediately" or various other claims.

This is again Jono trying to act like Elon is some right-wing guy when he's clearly a moderate, has mostly donated to democrats, is an independent and has claimed to have always voted democrat till now.

In that case you've been the victim of a classic straw man argument (set the other up as holding to something they dont, and attack them for it).
 
Context! You got to remember the context !!!

What he is saying is "Distraction, let me distract you with someone else, let me move the goal posts!"

"Oh my god, you don't understand the nuances!"

"I'm so very smart so I see all sorts of context and nuance in things that you just can't see"

I wonder what Dowie calls his spades.
 
Hi guys

Do you want to know what actually WOULD be government interference in personal freedoms?

This


What is the law going to be? "Companies must advertise on social media platforms when we pereceive the ownership of said platform to be on our side of our stupid arguments"
 
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That has nothing to do with advertising on Twitter - it is to do with Apple having a complete monopoly when it comes to app distribution/installation on iPhones, something that the EU are looking into seriously as well.

Having been involved first hand and seen in a previous job how Apple use this monopoly to leverage other companies, I'd say it is long overdue.
 
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Claiming Elon isn’t right wing because of his voting records like saying Trump isn’t for the same reason.

And we all know Trump was big fan of Clinton. (Not irony, he did back in the 90’s!)

Ergo, voting record in the past means nothing. What he does now matters more.
It's something I thought to bring up, but really, what's the point. They can't see what's right in their face.

The other day they try to defend Tesla current issues , by saying VW was founded by Nazis and some how that makes Tesla OK.

As you say, trump was a Democrat most of his life too. In fact, you could easily argue he still is given howucj he's done for the Dems
 
The other day they try to defend Tesla current issues , by saying VW was founded by Nazis and some how that makes Tesla OK.
Getting confused again there fella, the VW nazi comparison was because some ********* c list hollywood actor decided to 'return' her tesla because something something white supremacy, something something hate. People just laughed at her because she decided to get a vw, a company started by actual nazi's with some exceptionally dubious practices as evidenced by the recent emissions scandal. Oh, and their CEO was using Nazi phraseology as recent as 2019 :cry:

How is your memory?

Edit: that particular cold weather associated term is on the naughty word list? wow, guess ********** gonna ********* eh
 
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Getting confused again there fella, the VW nazi comparison was because some ********* c list hollywood actor decided to 'return' her tesla because something something white supremacy, something something hate. People just laughed at her because she decided to get a vw, a company started by actual nazi's with some exceptionally dubious practices as evidenced by the recent emissions scandal. Oh, and their CEO was using Nazi phraseology :cry:

How is your memory?
Do you find points go right over your head a lot? As that's happened about 10 times recently. Maybe you're not aware and live life in perfect ignorance. I envy that sometimes. Must be nice for you to be unaware so often and not even know.

As your leaders require, remember to stay asleep/anti awake.
 
This is again Jono trying to act like Elon is some right-wing guy when he's clearly a moderate, has mostly donated to democrats, is an independent and has claimed to have always voted democrat till now.

Elon like the majority of people at his level donate to people who can get them what they want in Washington and in any state they operate in. No surprise he would have donated to Democrats considering Tesla relied on sales of $b carbon credits to survive and its the Democrats that have been pushing legislation through on climate change. Not much point giving money to Republicans when they don't believe in climate change.

He might have been a Democratic supporter once but those days are long gone. You only have to look at how he runs his companies to see he doesn't give a damn about workers rights and will sack any worker that tries to unionise at his companies.
 
Do you find points go right over your head a lot? As that's happened about 10 times recently. Maybe you're not aware and live life in perfect ignorance. I envy that sometimes. Must be nice for you to be unaware so often and not even know.

As your leaders require, remember to stay asleep/anti awake.
Do you often make up scenarios in your head that are the complete opposite of reality?

I'm still waiting on that the video :(
 
He might have been a Democratic supporter once but those days are long gone. You only have to look at how he runs his companies to see he doesn't give a damn about workers rights and will sack any worker that tries to unionise at his companies.
How's that any different from any other CEO of a massive corporation that all claim to be democrats?
 
We all know if Government legislate it'll be very painful for social media companies, they stand to lose a lot more if they poke the bear.

But threatening government oversight when things aren't too your liking for silly reasons is not something new..
e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/16/media/elon-musk-twitter-social-media-reform/index.html


Elon like the majority of people at his level donate to people who can get them what they want in Washington and in any state they operate in. No surprise he would have donated to Democrats considering Tesla relied on sales of $b carbon credits to survive and its the Democrats that have been pushing legislation through on climate change. Not much point giving money to Republicans when they don't believe in climate change.

He might have been a Democratic supporter once but those days are long gone. You only have to look at how he runs his companies to see he doesn't give a damn about workers rights and will sack any worker that tries to unionise at his companies.
Long gone as in the last election? Biden vs Trump, he voted Biden, and still states he's open to voting to democrats again..

He's more like Jeff Bezos, flips flops on both sides constantly.. Amazon treats it's workers badly (possibly worse than Musk?) yet we aren't going around calling him a far right republican..
 
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Who here is on the left? Conservative voters are on the right no?

What about the babies that cry about apple being against free speech because they pulled their ads? Talk about melt down

It is ridiculous. This discussion about free speech, the left, the right, it's all BS. True freedom just doesn't exist. There is chaos if everyone is allowed to do whatever they want. We have laws to restrict freedom to sensible limits. Without laws there is no society. Exactly the same applies to speakers platforms, there have to be some rules. I hear the people say that words don't hurt, but actually they do. People who peddle hatred and misinformation very certainly can hurt others, so there have to be laws against that sort of thing. The people who say there should be absolute freedom of speech are just dreaming and those people include Elon. Apple are just being pragmatic. The majority of people will not support a platform that is just chaos and Apple know that.
 
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We all know if Government legislate it'll be very painful for social media companies, they stand to lose a lot more if they poke the bear.

But threatening government oversight when things aren't too your liking for silly reasons is not something new..
e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/16/media/elon-musk-twitter-social-media-reform/index.html



Long gone as in the last election? Biden vs Trump, he voted Biden, and still states he's open to voting to democrats again..

He's more like Jeff Bezos, flips flops on both sides constantly.. Amazon treats it's workers badly (possibly worse than Musk?) yet we aren't going around calling him a far right republican..
I will when Bezos publicly tell people to vote for the GOP.
 
It is ridiculous. This discussion about free speech, the left, the right, it's all BS. True freedom just doesn't exist. There is chaos if everyone is allowed to do whatever they want. We have laws to restrict freedom to sensible limits. Without laws there is no society. Exactly the same applies to speakers platforms, there have to be some rules. I hear the people say that words don't hurt, but actually they do. People who peddle hatred and misinformation very certainly can hurt others, so there have to be laws against that sort of thing. The people who say there should be absolute freedom of speech are just dreaming and those people include Elon. Apple are just being pragmatic. The majority of people will not support a platform that is just chaos and Apple know that.

Exactly.
 
How's that any different from any other CEO of a massive corporation that all claim to be democrats?

Any CEO who claims to be a Democrat but fires workers for attempting to fight for workers rights/unionise isn't a Democrat.


Long gone as in the last election? Biden vs Trump, he voted Biden, and still states he's open to voting to democrats again..

He's more like Jeff Bezos, flips flops on both sides constantly.. Amazon treats it's workers badly (possibly worse than Musk?) yet we aren't going around calling him a far right republican..

Biden vs Trump was a binary choice. Lots of voters on the right held their nose and voted Biden because of how dangerous Trump was/is, its how he won in states where Trump won in 2016. Has he said how he voted in his district for Congress, the Senate seat, Governor or local elections? Given his statement before the midterms its safe to say he voted Republican in all of them.

Bezos does indeed treat his workers like **** and he isn't a Democrat. Yes he will have donated to Democrats but the idea that these people believe in the ideology of a political party because they donate to them is laughable. They donate where it can help them in Washington and state legislatures. Its all about their business. They then attempt to wash their image by setting up foundations to do good works.

The day Bezos buys a social media company and then tells its users to vote for a party then he will deserve the same criticism that Musk got. He owns The Washington Post but I've yet to see him take use the front page "Vote for ........" and if he did the outrage would be massive.
 
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