The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

[dowie]

Elon is either right wing, or he is massively ignorant of anything to do with US politics....and I don't think it is the later. If it is the former, he shouldn't be using his platform to recommend how people vote.

I'm happy for Elon to say what he wants on Twitter and for Twitter to do whatever they please (whoever owns it).

My comment about him doing the voting recommendations would apply to anyone - i think they should inform themselves before doing so. Recommending anything from a place of ignorrance is a stupid thing to do.

Did you get "former" and "latter" confused or something?

Your previous post reads that if he's right-wing he shouldn't be using his platform to recommend how people vote.

Now you're saying you're happy for him to say what he wants but are talking about recommending things from a place of ignorance.... which was the latter apparent scenario in your previous post.

 

[Jono8]

Did you get "former" and "latter" confused or something?

Your previous post reads that if he's right-wing he shouldn't be using his platform.

Now you're talking about recommending things from a place of ignorance.

Sorry, yes i did mean latter (not former).

 

[dowie]

No my IF was that he shouldnt be recommending what party/people to vote for, if he is wildly ignorant of US politics (ie who is who and what they stand for).

OK, so when you said if it's the former you actually meant if it's the latter... glad we resolved that.

The former is the first thing in this sentence and the latter is the second thing.

You had "right wing" as the 1st thing/former and "massively ignorant" as the second thing/the latter thing and then went on to say "If it is the former"... thus the muddle.

 

[Jono8]

OK, so when you said if it's the former you actually meant if it's the latter... glad we resolved that.

See above. Just realised what you meant.

 

[D.P.]

Musk faces fines if Twitter’s gutted child safety team becomes overwhelmed

Already overworked child safety team went from 20 to less than 10 members.

arstechnica.com

Three people familiar with Twitter’s current staffing told Bloomberg that when 2022 started, Twitter had 20 team members responsible for reviewing and escalating reports of child sexual abuse materials (CSAM). Today, after layoffs and resignations, there are fewer than 10 specialists forming what Bloomberg described as “an overwhelmed skeleton crew.” It seems that despite Musk continually tweeting that blocking CSAM is Twitter’s top priority and even going so far as inviting users to tweet CSAM directly at him, Musk may already be losing his battle to keep the material off Twitter



Although Twitter recently removed some known hashtags used to spread CSAM, the move was not a complete or permanent solution because hashtags change, and so does the coded language that abusers use to skirt automated content removal. Because the removal of these hashtags happened after Musk’s takeover, it’s easy to credit him with the decision and see it as his commitment to blocking CSAM. However, sources told Bloomberg that the decision to remove the hashtags happened before Musk came on board.

Of course the far right don't get care, and will believe daddy Musk is doing a great job by removing a hashtag that will get instantly replaced with a new tag.

 

[StriderX]

Well the far right obviously wouldn't care because they're often very much in support of child exploitation.

 

[C Kent]

Musk faces fines if Twitter’s gutted child safety team becomes overwhelmed

Already overworked child safety team went from 20 to less than 10 members.

arstechnica.com

Of course the far right don't get care, and will believe daddy Musk is doing a great job by removing a hashtag that will get instantly replaced with a new tag.

is that the same Twitter that under previous management allowed child porn and everything associated with it to stay up and is currently being sued because they refused to remove it?

 

[visibleman]

is that the same Twitter that under previous management allowed child porn and everything associated with it to stay up and is currently being sued because they refused to remove it?

"Clark" can you point me to a source/article for that? Tar

 

[unwashed potato!]

So what is your point? He told people to vote GOP for a non partisan reason.. great, we've established the facts

You're making the point for them without even realising it.

 

[dowie]

Of course the far right don't get care, and will believe daddy Musk is doing a great job by removing a hashtag that will get instantly replaced with a new tag.

What does it have to do with the far right?

 

[C Kent]

"Clark" can you point me to a source/article for that? Tar

Of course "Person that's unable to use google", here you go

Judge rules Twitter can be sued for failing to take down child porn videos

A federal judge found Twitter may have benefitted financially from ad revenue generated by tweets containing child sexual abuse material.

www.courthousenews.com

 

[unwashed potato!]

Of course "Person that's unable to use google", here you go

Judge rules Twitter can be sued for failing to take down child porn videos

A federal judge found Twitter may have benefitted financially from ad revenue generated by tweets containing child sexual abuse material.

www.courthousenews.com

You're moaning that someone asked for a link so that they can look more into what you're talking about.

Special

 

[StriderX]

is that the same Twitter that under previous management allowed child porn and everything associated with it to stay up and is currently being sued because they refused to remove it?

Reviewing child abuse reports has to about one of the worst jobs to ever exist, I am not shocked that they are either overworked or built a flimsy rigid system to take some of the work off of them which tries to maintain the platform's consistency, but it's not impossible that there's a nonce cabal at twitter... though if that's the case then Musk risks being associated with it since I've not heard of anyone getting arrested for it.

 

[C Kent]

You're moaning that someone asked for a link so that they can look more into what you're talking about.

Special

I think as usual you are conflating humor with moaning. oh talking of links, got that video for me yet "dirty spuds"

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I didn't hear you or anyone else complaining about social media sites having too much power even a year ago.

When I was posting about this very subject I was being mocked for it. I even said even though its going your way now, what happens when someone with the opposite views of yours becomes the boss. Becareful what you wish for.

Christmas came early for some.

Was Jack Dorsey telling people to vote Democratic? Was Zuckerberg?

I would imagine owners of Parlor and GAB might have been telling posters there to vote Republican but I don't bother visiting those social media sites.I think we can guess who the owner of Truth Social tells people to vote for.

 

[C Kent]

Reviewing child abuse reports has to about one of the worst jobs to ever exist, I am not shocked that they are either overworked or built a flimsy rigid system to take some of the work off of them which tries to maintain the platform's consistency, but it's not impossible that there's a nonce cabal at twitter... though if that's the case then Musk risks being associated with it since I've not heard of anyone getting arrested for it.

I totally agree, but in this case they 'reviewed' the video of the 13 year old and decided it didn't violate their T&C's..it was only taken down after Homeland Security got involved and ordered them to do so..

 

[jpaul]

is that the same Twitter that under previous management allowed child porn and everything associated with it to stay up and is currently being sued because they refused to remove it?

with online safety bill , Musk like other social media owners will rapidly have to find some staff to be able to show that their methods for any age authentication are best in class, to avoid 10% revenue penalty,
or get the hell out of UK.

 

[Werewolf]

Musk faces fines if Twitter’s gutted child safety team becomes overwhelmed

Already overworked child safety team went from 20 to less than 10 members.

arstechnica.com

Of course the far right don't get care, and will believe daddy Musk is doing a great job by removing a hashtag that will get instantly replaced with a new tag.

If that's true that Musk asked people to post links CSM to him, that in itself shows how utterly clueless he is in regards to the law in many countries as that could mean both the person who sent him the link and he himself could be comitting offences.
There are extremely good reasons systems are in place on these platforms for reporting, and those systems are arranged with the help of lawyers and law enforcement.

 

[Shocky-FM]

Well then I think he (and you and some others in this thread) have a serious problem, if "wokeness" is more of a worry than all the **** the GOP come out with/have tried to pull recently.

and also, no, i dont think a moderate/centrist should just vote for either party at the moment. I'm sorry but if you vote GOP in the USA at the moment, you are either ignorant/stupid or just plain evil.

Ahh, you're one of them, to summarise your position, "Anyone who disagrees with me is ignorant and stupid"

I bet if I said that I would get a suspension or a ban.

 

[visibleman]

Of course "Person that's unable to use google", here you go

Judge rules Twitter can be sued for failing to take down child porn videos

A federal judge found Twitter may have benefitted financially from ad revenue generated by tweets containing child sexual abuse material.

www.courthousenews.com

Good article. Am curious about the "...Twitter refused to do so until nine days later when a Department of Homeland Security agent contacted Twitter and urged action." and why Twitter didn't take action within that time period. Even if Twitter come out with staffing issues, which is sort of understandable as you can imagine it's not exactly one of the jobs people are rushing to do, it doesn't look great either way.
Interesting to see what happens with the court case given it's Musk's problem now though.