The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Werewolf said:
Except that the "tracking" was utter nonesense.

The "tracking" was publically available information about his aircraft, which was in a different state to where his kid was.
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That's have already been debunked in this thread though hasnt it, not to go over old posts but the guy tracking musk's plane had to go around the PIA Musk had in place, so the information wasn't "publicly available".
 
C Kent said:
That's have already been debunked in this thread though hasnt it, not to go over old posts but the guy tracking musk's plane had to go around the PIA Musk had in place, so the information wasn't "publicly available".
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So they guy stole it/obtained the information illegally?
 
C Kent said:
That's have already been debunked in this thread though hasnt it, not to go over old posts but the guy tracking musk's plane had to go around the PIA Musk had in place, so the information wasn't "publicly available".
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No, it wasn't debunked at all, except perhaps in your head for some reason. ElonJet guy was using publicly available data to work out which jet was Elon's, circumventing the PIA in the process. 'Publicly available with extra steps' is still publicly available. Or are you suggesting he has access to some unauthorised data, because that's a big claim that it's on you to prove.

In any case, it's completely irrelevant to what we were discussing since the jets location had no bearing on the incident we were talking about.
 
JRS said:
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Is it me, guys?



I reckon I'll just wait for you to pick a position and stick with it before engaging any further, tbh :p
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I didn't realise 'choosing not to pay for access to an API in order to make a non-monetised whimsical Twitter account continue to function when that access up until now has been free' was virtue signalling.
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When I said "it isn't", I was making a general point that whimsical Twitter accounts choosing not to pay for API access wouldn't automatically be virtue signaling, but when that account has 580k followers then it is very easy to fund paying for API access, you'd almost be stupid not to do that. Kind of like closing a successful shop in a town center because a Mayor you don't like institutes a small tax rise that you can easily afford, you're not doing it because of the money, you're doing it to make some political point.
 
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C Kent said:
That's have already been debunked in this thread though hasnt it, not to go over old posts but the guy tracking musk's plane had to go around the PIA Musk had in place, so the information wasn't "publicly available".
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That guy didn't get any info from ElonJet and the jet was in another state at the time. He is a stalker who wants to bang Elon's ex.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
That guy didn't get any info from ElonJet and the jet was in another state at the time. He is a stalker who wants to bang Elon's ex.
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Yeah I know the dude that was on film was an unhinged stalker, it was more the narrative that musk's jet can be tracked legitimately by the public, it can't as he signed up the additional privacy elements the nbaa offer to stop aircraft being tracked by plane trackers. Anyway this was all covered months ago, just amusing to see it being ignored by usual folks.
 
C Kent said:
Yeah I know the dude that was on film was an unhinged stalker, it was more the narrative that musk's jet can be tracked legitimately by the public, it can't as he signed up the additional privacy elements the nbaa offer to stop aircraft being tracked by plane trackers. Anyway this was all covered months ago, just amusing to see it being ignored by usual folks.
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So what private information is the ElonJet guy using to track the jet? You’ve come into the thread after quite an absence, brought up a topic from months ago with a completely incorrect take, then ignored all questions. Not surprisingly now you want to drop the whole subject.
 
Roar87 said:
When I said "it isn't", I was making a general point that whimsical Twitter accounts choosing not to pay for API access wouldn't automatically be virtue signaling, but when that account has 580k followers then it is very easy to fund paying for API access, you'd almost be stupid not to do that. Kind of like closing a successful shop in a town center because a Mayor you don't like institutes a small tax rise that you can easily afford, you're not doing it because of the money, you're doing it to make some political point.
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Why should someone go through the hassle of sorting out that payment collection etc just so that he can provide content for Musk?

Once you start accepting payments you enter into what can be an annoying level of complications with regards to your banking and tax, which a lot of people will not want to do for something they see as a hobby.
there is also an element of what about when musk realises that his "charging for access" like this isn't going to work as well as the galaxy brain thought, in much the same way that charging for twitter blue didn't work out to be anything like enough to cover what he's lost in advertising from that debacle (which still required him to verify accounts) let alone bring in additional income to pay off the interest payments for the loans he took out.

You seem to have the same blindness as Musk, the content providers* are what have brought in money for twitter by making it so that the public are looking at it and thus at the adverts that they used to be able to charge for, with every change Musk has made so far he's moving away from Twitter being profitable by driving away the accounts that people signed up to see.
At the rate it's going Twitter is going to have the value of Truth Social.


*Most publishers would love to have all those big names in entertainment posting on their sites for free, without them even asking for a slice of the advertising revenue.
 
Roar87 said:
When I said "it isn't", I was making a general point that whimsical Twitter accounts choosing not to pay for API access wouldn't automatically be virtue signaling
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Bull :p

Roar87 said:
but when that account has 580k followers then it is very easy to fund paying for API access, you'd almost be stupid not to do that. Kind of like closing a successful shop in a town center because a Mayor you don't like institutes a small tax rise that you can easily afford, you're not doing it because of the money, you're doing it to make some political point.
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Gosh, I'm learning all the time. Now apparently aspects of the free market economy are virtue signalling as well. Who would'a thunk it?
 
Werewolf said:
Why should someone go through the hassle of sorting out that payment collection etc just so that he can provide content for Musk?

Once you start accepting payments you enter into what can be an annoying level of complications with regards to your banking and tax, which a lot of people will not want to do for something they see as a hobby.
there is also an element of what about when musk realises that his "charging for access" like this isn't going to work as well as the galaxy brain thought, in much the same way that charging for twitter blue didn't work out to be anything like enough to cover what he's lost in advertising from that debacle (which still required him to verify accounts) let alone bring in additional income to pay off the interest payments for the loans he took out.

You seem to have the same blindness as Musk, the content providers* are what have brought in money for twitter by making it so that the public are looking at it and thus at the adverts that they used to be able to charge for, with every change Musk has made so far he's moving away from Twitter being profitable by driving away the accounts that people signed up to see.
At the rate it's going Twitter is going to have the value of Truth Social.


*Most publishers would love to have all those big names in entertainment posting on their sites for free, without them even asking for a slice of the advertising revenue.
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I dont know why he doesnt just ask for donataions to his free speech project. Then all his fans can chip in and he can stop annoying others.
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
Its like Matt Taibbi didn't bother to read the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee report. This is the same journalist who insisted Russia wasn't going to invade Ukraine :rolleyes:

Is Elon ever going to release these files so independent journalists can trawl though them and we can get the whole story? Somehow I doubt it.

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I have to say that Twitter feed is full of crazy apon crazy.
 
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Oh shots fired.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Bill Gates slams Elon Musk's space ambitions as a 'waste of money'

Bill Gates has reignited a feud with Elon Musk by attacking his ambitions to get to Mars and suggesting he should use his money to save lives by investing in vaccines.
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Bill Gates has reignited an old feud with Elon Musk by attacking his ambitions to get to Mars and suggested he should his money to save lives by investing in measles vaccines.

Gates, 67, said during an BBC interview that released on Friday that although Musk was having a positive impact on the world through Tesla, he did not consider him to be a real 'philanthropist' like Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos and himself.
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Quick guys, there's not much time to use the special Twitter API tools to help you migrate to Mastodon:


I'd not even heard that site mentioned since the initial flurry of interest in it when Twitter was supposedly only going to have a week left to survive after Elon sacked a load of engineers... funny how that turned out to be total nonsense.

Also strangely enough a bunch of the very vocal "hey, I'm also on Mastodon" anti-twitter crowd have ended up sticking around on twitter after all. :D
 
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