The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Not really worth it though is it? It's clear it won't last forever so why waste time setting up on Twitter just have the rug pull some point in the future?

Useless.
 
LOL Pepito is gloating a bit now:


That is sensible though tbh. light API usage for verified accounts + the fee for the heavier usage should get rid of a fair few spam bots.

Secondary to that they seem to be cracking down on bots quite a bit in recent days, if anyone uses tracking tools on there you can see "unfollowers" etc.. but if you've noticed followers dropping in recent days yet they're untracked it's typically because the account has been nuked. There have been a few tweets from people saying "omg I've lost X00 followers overnight".
 
The thing is, they could already have removed the ability of the bots to use the api's (they were almost certainly breaking twitter's T&C), or have announced a change to the api and communicated it properly with the intention and limits of the changes clear.
But this is Musk's twitter, where every random idea he has is announced to be implimented without anyone daring to suggest they might want to look into how it will affect the users, or the reliability of the system, so you keep getting these stupid and completely preventable announcement/rollback/"we've broken something" situations.

I mean this might work in a small start up, but when every time you do this you are chasing off the people that make you money it really doesn't work.
 
Have a never ending discussion about what should be done and what downstream effects it has....
Or
Make the changes and see what breaks and what people are ACTUALLY antsy about.

The second one is how progress is made, not the first.
 
The second isn't right though is it?

Look at what Youtube is doing, they have access to probably the most important dataset ever made and yet they continue to make ridiculous changes because even that's not profitable enough for them... how can Twitter with it's garbage tier dataset even compete if a behemoth like Google has to squeeze the daylights out of it's patrons on top of Elon being completely unable to avoid intruding for personal reasons that go directly against his lofty idealisms?

Not like it even matters anyway as some day governments will step in to regulate these services into irrelevance, in fact it's already begun under the guise of protecting children from their parents lack of interest.
 
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StriderX said:
The second isn't right though is it?

Look at what Youtube is doing, they have access to probably the most important dataset ever made and yet they continue to make ridiculous changes because even that's not profitable enough for them... how can Twitter with it's garbage tier dataset even compete if a behemoth like Google has to squeeze the daylights out of it's patrons on top of Elon being completely unable to avoid intruding for personal reasons that go directly against his lofty idealisms?

Not like it even matters anyway as some day governments will step in to regulate these services into irrelevance, in fact it's already begun under the guise of protecting children from their parents lack of interest.
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Surely Twitter has a fantastic dataset? The location tracking alone must be great, assuming it tracks that.
 
Fuzz said:
Have a never ending discussion about what should be done and what downstream effects it has....
Or
Make the changes and see what breaks and what people are ACTUALLY antsy about.

The second one is how progress is made, not the first.
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Ah and that explains why Twitter is now losing money hand over fist, and doesn't even have the income it had before having driven off all the advertisers.

There is a middle ground which is that you don't do stuff at random, and you at least try and consider what effect it has, whilst clearly communicating the change so people don't find out about a major change that will kill their ability to use the service with only a few days notice.
It also helps if you have the most basic understanding of the business you're fiddling with, which so far Musk has shown no such understanding He doesn't for example grasp even the most basic thing such as the main reasons people use it.
 
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Anyone know what the cash flow situation is with Twitter at the moment, ie - we know they're ****** but how ******?
There was talk of Twitter having $300m in the bank but i thought that was a fair few years ago.

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That is sensible though tbh.
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Perhaps but they've already given the middle finger to devs and third-party users by showing them they can turn services off at the drop of the hat without any form of proper communication, so i doubt there's much confidence when they could quite easily do the same again.
 
twitter censorship ?

Twitter Appears To Censor Doug DeMuro Video on Used Tesla Values Dropping​


[ UK more general ev malaise
Tesla Model Ys lost 11.1 per cent, or £5,500, in January. The rear wheel drive model lost 14.1 per cent, or £6,800.​
Since October, the Tesla Model Y has lost a worrying 27 per cent of its value – the equivalent of £14,000.​
The falling electric car prices dragged down the used car market overall in January, which registered a 0.1 per cent rise overall on December.​
Source: Cap HPI data on prices EVs fell compared to December​
​
  1. Mini Cooper Electric – down 11.5%, -£2,917
  2. Tesla Model Y – down 11.1%, -£5,500
  3. Hyundai Ioniq – down 10.6%, -£2,375
  4. Nissan Leaf – down 10.6%, -£2,407
  5. Tesla Model 3 – down 10.5%, -£3,825
  6. Jaguar I-Pace – down 10.3%, -£5,020
  7. BMW i3 – down 9.3%, -£2,489
  8. Renault Zoe – down 8.7%, -£1,640
  9. Polestar 2 – down 8.7%, -£3,595
  10. Audi e-tron – down 8.4%, -£4,060
]
 
Indeed - that is really him/Musk I assume - some of the USA tesla price drops are attribute to his behaviour with respect to twitter, & exhibiting pro-russia behaviour won't endear him.
(which would be like me not buying anything from Mr Dyson)
 
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Lets not miss out him also requesting correction of the misinformation

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Yes like 15 hours later when millions had seen his tweet. If he didn't immediately call bull **** on the NATO stuff he's either more of an idiot than I thought or he's so far down the rabbit hole he should be wearing a tinfoil hat permanently.
 
https://www.engadget.com/twitter-180000-paying-subscribers-us-mid-january-075214783.html

Twitter reportedly had only 180,000 subscribers in the US last month​

According to The Information, only 180,000 people in the US have been paying for a Twitter subscription by mid-January, and that's apparently around 0.2 percent of the website's monthly active users. The publication said it saw the information on a document, which also revealed that 62 percent of the company's paying users reside in the US. That means Twitter has approximately 290,000 subscribers worldwide.

Twitter Blue costs $8 a month for users who pay via web — or $7, if they pay for an annual subscription — and $11 for those who pay via Apple's or Google's app stores...With the current number of paying users, the website is only set to earn $27.8 million a year from its subscription services.
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I'm sure the numbers of subscribers will increase but they're going to need more than forty times that just to cover the yearly interest (allegedly $1.2bn per year); that $28m a year barely touches the sides :(
 
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