The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

unwashed potato! · 19 Sep 2023 at 13:46

Ah I didn't realise there were that many card numbers possible!

It does still feel stupid "solution" for bots, to punish the good users who bring in money.

I wonder if Elon has looked at twitter blue users, looked at advertisers and just seen that it is an impossibility that twitter will ever make money as it is, due to Elon's changes, so he's now needing another way to bring in money.

Fubsy · 19 Sep 2023 at 14:46

I think one thing is certain, he has no clue what he's doing and just making it up as he takes along twitter/x whatever and it's users along (or not, depending how they react to changes) for a joy ride.

HungryHippos · 19 Sep 2023 at 14:55

I hope he implements it and watches it backfire on him.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 19 Sep 2023 at 15:09

HungryHippos said:
His hands look like they have a mind of their own, don't know who told him that moving his hands around like that was effective, but it just looks ridiculous.

At one point he starts even looking at his own hands, as if even hes amazed at what they are doing!
If yo didnt know better you would think there was someone above him pulling the strings attached to his hands

Werewolf said:
Re credit cards, IIRC Twittter/x like most places accepts "virtual" credit cards, there is practically an infinite number of virtual credit card numbers that can be used (something like a trillion combinations per card issuing company).

Even if Twitter/musk could id virtual card numbers I doubt they'd want to ban them given that a lot of people on low incomes will make use of disposable/prepaid cards.

The point of these cards, or one of, is to be able to make a transaction but that if they are harvested they are worthless.
IMO all card companies should be required to make them available (in probably limited numbers) to help people be able to use them where they consider a risk of fraud.

HungryHippos · 19 Sep 2023 at 15:12

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
At one point he starts even looking at his own hands, as if even hes amazed at what they are doing!

Fubsy · 19 Sep 2023 at 15:17

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
The point of these cards, or one of, is to be able to make a transaction but that if they are harvested they are worthless.
IMO all card companies should be required to make them available (in probably limited numbers) to help people be able to use them where they consider a risk of fraud.

I run an account like this with restricted or limited funds so if the card is compromised they can't go on a spending spree and I usually get a warning a payment was attempted and I can sort it out, still with my money intact. It's just a bit of a faff to transfer money over to it prior to use.

Learnt my lesson a long time ago using cards online that have actual required day to day living money sat in them.

unwashed potato! · 19 Sep 2023 at 17:41

Fubsy said:
I run an account like this with restricted or limited funds so if the card is compromised they can't go on a spending spree and I usually get a warning a payment was attempted and I can sort it out, still with my money intact. It's just a bit of a faff to transfer money over to it prior to use.

Learnt my lesson a long time ago using cards online that have actual required day to day living money sat in them.

Is it really an issue though? Especially with modern day banking, I have to approve basically everything I spend online that's for a new supplier

Werewolf · 19 Sep 2023 at 18:25

unwashed potato! said:
Is it really an issue though? Especially with modern day banking, I have to approve basically everything I spend online that's for a new supplier

It is still an issue, although not as bad as it once was.

If you use third party payment processors that protection can be limited, and if compromised card is used at a retailer you've used before it can be limited.

You're also relying on your bank to be quick on the ball, not all banks are especially in some countries, the US from memory is still at least a decade or more behind the EU in many ways in terms of banking protection (partly because in the EU and UK we have far more robust consumer laws in regards to card fraud).

cu3ed · 20 Sep 2023 at 10:35

Imagine yourself for a moment in a conversation with a another person, "hey...I pay monthly to use X".....just..just think about how stupid that makes you look lol.

Grim5 · 20 Sep 2023 at 10:43

cu3ed said:
Imagine yourself for a moment in a conversation with a another person, "hey...I pay monthly to use X".....just..just think about how stupid that makes you look lol.

Imaging telling someone you browse/use X, how embarrassing

In real life no one admits to using X, because they know how lame duck it makes them look, all their co-workers, friends and family will instantly look down upon them

cu3ed · 20 Sep 2023 at 11:59

Grim5 said:
Imaging telling someone you browse/use X, how embarrassing

In real life no one admits to using X, because they know how lame duck it makes them look, all their co-workers, friends and family will instantly look down upon them

Thats true, but I think poeple might say " Hey you see the vid on X"....now they wont lol.

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 14:35

cu3ed said:
Imagine yourself for a moment in a conversation with a another person, "hey...I pay monthly to use X".....just..just think about how stupid that makes you look lol.

Imagine being an adult and caring what other people think of you

visibleman · 20 Sep 2023 at 14:45

Roar87 said:
Imagine being an adult and caring what other people think of you

Given todays generations with the internet and social media, it wouldn't be a bad thing if (some of) the human race did...

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 14:47

visibleman said:
Given todays generations with the internet and social media, it wouldn't be a bad thing if (some of) the human race did...

I'm talking about hiding things you enjoy doing and your interests, like you're still trying to look cool in front of other people

visibleman · 20 Sep 2023 at 14:57

Roar87 said:
I'm talking about hiding things you enjoy doing and your interests, like you're still trying to look cool in front of other people

Personal insult and attack from someone that constantly moans about being personally insulted and attacked...

mattx4 · 20 Sep 2023 at 14:58

cu3ed said:
Thats true, but I think poeple might say " Hey you see the vid on X"....now they wont lol.

"Hey check out this x vid"
"Is that porn or Twitter"
"Twitter"
"Ughh no thanks that's disgusting"

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 15:02

visibleman said:
Personal insult and attack from someone that constantly moans about being personally insulted and attacked...

I'm confused, I wasn't personally attacking you?

visibleman · 20 Sep 2023 at 15:04

Roar87 said:
I'm confused...

That's a given isn't it?

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 15:07

visibleman said:
That's a given isn't it?

Are you often this rude to people in real life? How do you navigate without getting a smack in the mouth every time you're out socialising?

visibleman · 20 Sep 2023 at 15:24

Roar87 said:
Are you often this rude to people in real life? How do you navigate without getting a smack in the mouth every time you're out socialising?

Because i'm not a **** @Roar87. Common sense suggests if you, @Roar87, go giving it the biggens in your size sevens and (hypocritically) throw insults/attacks around, then expect them to get served back to you. Just imagine, if didn't try to look like billy big ******** a few post back with your snide remark, then we wouldn't be here

Well played for derailing a thread though @Roar87...