The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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It would be unlikely to work out cheaper, since he'd have to pay the $1 billion breakup fee, then persuade Twitter to renegotiate a lower price (which they are under no obligation to do, and have no motivation to do) while fending off lawsuits from Twitter, as they sue him to increase the amount of compensation (which they are legally entitled to do).

It's a huge risk for no certain gain. Either way, Musk is in trouble. If he walks away now, he'll be admitting defeat.

That's completely backward, if he were able to buy at a new price then of course it would likely work out cheaper. Otherwise, he's just paying to walk away from a deal that would currently be overpriced.

Considering his arrogrance, I'm guessing he was hoping to wiggle out of the fee by implying Twitter broke its contract regarding the disclosure of bots.

Quite probably yes, he's going to try and avoid any fee here by blaming them, it also serves as an excuse to be made publicly too.

Is the termination fee ($1bn) clear cut in the merger agreement or would he be able to wangle out of it some how, perhaps with political pressure? Like Paxton currently "looking" into Twitter which definitely has a whiff of Elon about it considering all his business in Texas.

I think as per diamount's post above he quite probably is trying to get out of such a fee.
 
What type of free speech do you think people want? Do you think everyone wants the ability go type the N word to people they don't like with no repercussions? I actually think some of you believe that and I wonder what sort of world you think you occupy.

Cleary some people do think free speech means free of consequences esp some Americans and certainly some posters on this forum, but no, I was meaning a lot of those people who were banned from posting misinformation like Trump, who think that Musk is going to give them a free ticket under "free speech" to continue posting lies and misinformation when it seems his intent is to do the opposite.

Personally I think twitter is currently very good as far as free speech goes and unless its misinformation or abusive or bullying, you can pretty much post want you want.
 
Cleary some people do think free speech means free of consequences esp some Americans and certainly some posters on this forum, but no, I was meaning a lot of those people who were banned from posting misinformation like Trump, who think that Musk is going to give them a free ticket under "free speech" to continue posting lies and misinformation when it seems his intent is to do the opposite.

Personally I think twitter is currently very good as far as free speech goes and unless its misinformation or abusive or bullying, you can pretty much post want you want.

You do understand that labelling things "misinformation" is literally retarded because you need to actually define misinformation and have 1 authority who gets to say what that is, then if that authority has any sort of bias you have an unfair situation. You're basically not allowing people to discuss and challenge ideas, calling someone's idea misinformation which may later be proven true, how is that good or sensible? Did IQ's drop at some point in the past few years that people don't see how ******* obvious that is?
 
You do understand that labelling things "misinformation" is literally retarded because you need to actually define misinformation and have 1 authority who gets to say what that is, then if that authority has any sort of bias you have an unfair situation. You're basically not allowing people to discuss and challenge ideas, calling someone's idea misinformation which may later be proven true, how is that good or sensible? Did IQ's drop at some point in the past few years that people don't see how ******* obvious that is?

Hey don't shoot the messenger, its Musk who is saying he wants to tidy up Twitter and get rid of "misinformation" posted so I presume it will be Musk who ultimately decides what is and isn't misinformation? PS Trump didn't win the last election and it wasn't rigged.
 
It certainly hasn't put Elon in a good light at all. He had an almost cult like following, every word he said watched as it'll spike prices, make them go sky high, make everyone near him rich etc. But now he just looks like some arrogant fool that has had his time and now starting to lose it.
I thought he was more bothered about twitter banning people for not sharing the same view point as them and trying to cancel certain topics
Cleary some people do think free speech means free of consequences esp some Americans and certainly some posters on this forum, but no, I was meaning a lot of those people who were banned from posting misinformation like Trump, who think that Musk is going to give them a free ticket under "free speech" to continue posting lies and misinformation when it seems his intent is to do the opposite.

Personally I think twitter is currently very good as far as free speech goes and unless its misinformation or abusive or bullying, you can pretty much post want you want.

didn't they also remove tweets about bidens laptop because apparently it was fake news
 
didn't they also remove tweets about bidens laptop because apparently it was fake news

Yeah but that was misinformation, except it wasn't and could have affected how people voted. I mean, I guess that's sort of rigging the election by having large Californian tech companies decide which stories are allowed to be viewed and which aren't, haha but orange man bad
 
Yeah but that was misinformation, except it wasn't and could have affected how people voted. I mean, I guess that's sort of rigging the election by having large Californian tech companies decide which stories are allowed to be viewed and which aren't, haha but orange man bad
they removed tons of covid stuff that turned out to be true too
 
Orange man was bad though, absolute lie machine. :cry:


Biden is a lie machine as well, he just isn't hounded by the media 365 days a year like Trump because no one gives a **** about anything written about him
 
Obviously? If it's so obvious, it was rather stupid of the richest guy in earth, to publicly announce, and then put in a legally binding offer, to take over twitter, without doing basic homework. Fool on Elon for that if what you say is true
Because it was assumed that Twitter would produce the figures. I'm sure he could sue them if they don't make public the details they are legally obliged to do.

We know they have been moving follower accounts around because all sides, on left and right, have been impacted.
 

Biden is a lie machine as well, he just isn't hounded by the media 365 days a year like Trump because no one gives a **** about anything written about him

Lol, this pales in comparison. Just stop lying. Your slavish obsession with a failed ex moron of a president is worrying.
 
If he can prove that twitter has lied then I doubt he will be on the hook for that 1bn.
IIRC he declined the ability to view raw figures and data from Twitter before signing the pre sale agreement, an agreement that stated he was happy to go with what Twitter had declared to the regulators in statements that have various caveats.

He then tried to claim that the truth was materially different to what had been told to the regulator, apparently the legal definition of "materially different" in this sort of business deal sense is a very high bar to reach, especially if the company can show their methodology was done in good faith as you have to specifically show that they deliberately set out to mislead the SEC.

Basically he was in such a rush to get a deal that he declined to sign the necessary NDA's and give his legal team/accountants etc the time to do a thorough check.
Effectively he liked the look of it/idea of controlling twitter in the name of "free speech"*, but didn't want to do the boring business stuff that normal, sensible and smart business people do before signing a binding contract with penalty clauses.

It's the same as buying a second hand car because you like the look of it, declining to have it looked at by a mechanic because "I know cars" then getting upset that it's not the exactly what you thought it was and would have been shown by looking at the documentation, or getting a mechanic to check it out (IE buying a car because you think it's X model and then realising that it's X-1 as described by the seller but registered late so the registration year/quarter is the same).
Or in Teslas terms, you buy a car because it's described as having "autopilot" and assume that means that like the autopilot in an aircraft it means it's safe to be hands free for long periods of time, then getting upset when it turns out that it means that it's somewhat capable of driving in a straight line as long as you're aware that it might decide to drive into a truck, or a lane dividor, or a pedestrian that it thinks is a plastic bag.

No matter how smart you think you are, or how smart you are in some regards there are very good reasons that accountants and lawyers may specialise in one very small area of their broad profession, or in computer terms, supporting highly skilled and specialist academics can be an utter nightmare because they know they're smart, and may not be willing to listen to a lowly computer toucher who is daring to tell them they're doing something wrong when they designed computers back when you were in nappies doncha know.


*Ask the various Tesla workers how much he loves it when they try to unionise (protected by federal law, and free speech), or talking about working conditions/safety issues even to the safety bodies.
 
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You made the claim, back it up.

I can't be bothered to dig through all his crap, you can google and quickly find examples

ome time between Dec. 2 and Dec. 10, Twitter elaborated on its policy of labelling false, COVID-19 related information, and introduced the following policy:
When Tweets include misleading information about COVID-19, we may place a label on those Tweets that includes corrective information about that claim. In cases where we determine there is potential for harm associated with the misleading claim, we will disable the ability for others to Retweet, Quote Tweet, or engage in other ways to prevent the spread of the misleading information.
…We may apply labels to Tweets that contain, for example:
…3. False or misleading information regarding the safety or science behind approved or authorized COVID-19 vaccines, such as:…
False or misleading claims that people who have received the vaccine can spread or shed the virus (or symptoms, or immunity) to unvaccinated people

if you tweeted saying vaccinated people can spread covid it got labelled as misinformation
 
Did it though? Or are you misquoting what it actually said? I'm interested to know the exsct words.
read what I qouted those are exact words from twitter policy or just click the link and read it all

"3. False or misleading information regarding the safety or science behind approved or authorized COVID-19 vaccines, such as:…
False or misleading claims that people who have received the vaccine can spread or shed the virus (or symptoms, or immunity) to unvaccinated people"
 
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