The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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And Tesla is no where near the best self driving, even though Tesla had a head start, plenty of investors funding and a self certified 200IQ genius
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And notably has, for years, been charging people thousands of pounds for the self driving technology that they don't have. It's hilarious, idiot tax at it's finest.
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i guess on an average perhaps it is less safe right now, especially while there's so few on the road, so drivers don't know to expect them and how to deal with them, however i would say out of almost everyone i know as a driver, if i had the choice to be driven by them, or their automated car, i'd pick the automated car.
until cars can talk to each other it's probably never going to happen, where are the 5g highways etc
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Elon consistently using words like "probably", "looking likely", "I predict", etc. Video title: ELON MUSK PROMISING TESLA ROBOTAXIS NEXT YEAR.
I feel like I'm the only person who actually listens to the words people use.
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Yes he lies constantly, but in such a way that he knew he couldn't deliver, but sounded like he was about to. Probably 90 percent next year, means it's highly likely, and if not 90 percent, perhaps they only reach 70 percent, and the following year it's 90 percent. That's the idea Elon is trying to put in people's minds so that they buy tesla, which they did, but it was a lie. He should have said "it's impossible that any time soon will you be doing 90 percent of your miles in auto pilot", but instead he said "next year will probably be 90 percent"
Are you the only one who can't figure out the point of Elon's cleverly chosen words?
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"Next year for sure we will have over 1m robotaxis on the road" Elon in 2019. What year are we in now Roar?
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Musk took another L this week. He'll be struggling to claw back advertiser revenue now.
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Damn that is not good for Tesla or many of the other auto makers. Has Elon ranted yet?
Some of the test protocol is actually good, I agree with many sub-tests for attentiveness/monitoring etc.. but it's left itself wide open (based on the test protocol linked from that report)
1. The most obvious is why they publish the report and protocol dated March 2024 that says latest software should be used and then for Tesla it uses a 9 month old build with all the AP 'recall' stuff missing? That would impact driver monitoring/attentiveness.
2. I don't know how the Tesla AP failed safety features, I think it passes most, and also, some of them don't apply (there is no concept of LDW/LDP when AP is on, it does not allow any driver intervention to allow you to veer out of lane without it disengaging and then LDP/LDW are back on). Maybe it's a technicality based on the next point:
3. The cooperative steering test is contrived and has a backwards rationale "The sustained lane centering function should encourage the driver to share control of thesteering rather than switch off automatically whenever the driver adjusts the wheel. Switchingoff risks disincentivizing drivers from staying physically engaged in the driving task.", no, when you have to have your hands on the wheel and any attempt to override the steering disengages AP, it encourages you to keep physically engaged.. the VW system (as an example) allows you to gently steer, but that incentivises you to just let go again and have less physical engagement.. this test seems odd in being very specific in its behaviour and has a weak and backwards argument for why its safety related.
4. There are no tests for actual efficacy of anything.. so how reliably they steer in lane, or detect objects, or can stop safely behind a stationary car, etc, etc. you know the things that tend to put you in the dangerous situations.
I think it's possible to make a system get 'G' in every category and still be hopelessly dangerous..
But no arguments there are improvements required by Tesla.
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We'll soon know as I very much doubt Elon will be able to poker face some question he didn't like.
Elon is used to interviewers just eating up his BS instead of having an actual back and forth to dig down deeper.
For example you'll find so many videos of an interviewer asking a question like "so when will self driving became fully autonomous" and Elon will always say "later this year or next year" and then the interviewer just goes to the next question instead of following that up "why do you say that, what advances have you mad to give you that confidence considering it's the same claim you've made 8 times before since 2014?"
For example you'll find so many videos of an interviewer asking a question like "so when will self driving became fully autonomous" and Elon will always say "later this year or next year" and then the interviewer just goes to the next question instead of following that up "why do you say that, what advances have you mad to give you that confidence considering it's the same claim you've made 8 times before since 2014?"
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US Billionaire Drowns in Tesla After Rescuers Struggle With Car's Strengthened Glass
Foremost Group CEO Angela Chao was found dead on February 11th near Austin after her Tesla submerged in a pond. Authorities suspect drowning.www.ibtimes.co.uk
Explains why the windows won't break, but also makes the solution seem so simple, just open the windows
They tested this on Mythbusters a few times years ago and basically what they said in the video is correct. You have to get the window down immediately and go. If you cant get the window down, you have to wait for the car to fully submerge and open the door. You cant open the door on a partially submerged car because of the pressure difference.
Realistically in the latter scenario, you've got about 10 seconds to get the door open after the water goes over your head to save yourself before panic sets in and your done.
Realistically in the latter scenario, you've got about 10 seconds to get the door open after the water goes over your head to save yourself before panic sets in and your done.
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Wtf is this scoring scheme? No key 2/10 work harderDamn that is not good for Tesla or many of the other auto makers. Has Elon ranted yet?
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Which is one of the reasons sensible car designers tend to do things like make a simple mechanical lever to open the door easy to locate and use, even if you're upside down and in the dark.
They don't do things like put in an electronic latch that requires you to start pulling things apart to find and pull in a specific manner.
It's almost like most car manufacturers understand why certain features of cars persist after 100+ years.
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We really should change the name of this thread the last two dozen posts are about cars, maybe it needs moving to motors?
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I thought you had to wait for pressure to equalise inside and out, meaning the car needs to be full of water too
It's about Elons cars ?
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