Soldato
That's literally what my post said that you said my friend
The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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Soldato
Well we are proper ****** then because the masses are idiots, easily fooled and easily manipulated. Without serious safety precautions being put in place what has happened in the last 10 years will seem like nothing compared to what's to come. There is a potential for bad actors to rip societies apart, it would hubris in the extreme to think any of our societies aren't incredibly vulnerable to this.
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Go and watch 12.x FSD videos, Tesla is so far ahead with it's Dojo super computer training on millions of different scenarios it's not even funny
Soldato
Would you be able to link a worthy one? Interested to see the progress they've made
Soldato
WholeMarsCatalog is one of the few non Tesla employees with access to fsd 12.x..
I’ve been vocal about Musks FSD over promising, and still maintain he was full of BS at the time, however, seeing FSD12 is the first time it looks on the path to being achievable.
12.3 latest first drive (his reaction is funny)
There are ones with minor interventions (most common issue is getting stuck at junctions with visibility and he has to override the throttle to get it moving, but many are spot on, and this guy does do some harsh condition checking and looks for flaws and knows where the weaknesses are.. he’s quite happy to criticise and point out everything wrong he can find, but he’s balanced and also looks for what it can right.
Still not something I can see being allowed en-masse but it’s a step forward IMO.
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I'm not sure who the "liar" is supposed to be aimed at, but you said
I don't follow him, I see his posts, including a direct tweet from him yesterday that was on my "for you" timeline. His reach extends beyond people who follow him.
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Soldato
Title says Twitter but this thread couldn't stay on topic if life depended on it. As someone said, it just needs renaming.
The problem with Tesla's FSD is that 6-7 years ago they were behind most of the competitors yet Musk was saying they were a year behind full public release and charging Tesla customers crazy amounts for a promised imminent FSD. Then over the next years they fell even further behind while Google marched forwards with fully autonomous taxis, and Musk went quite out of embarrassment and law suits. They have evidently invested a lot and are catching up, but still seem to have only reached what Google, Cruise, Uber were doing a few years back.
Now everyone in the FSD space is relatively quiet and the hype is gone. They are slowly working towards the 6-sigma reliability
Caporegime
It's like everything else Musk does: over-promises, under-delivers.
He was supposed to be putting people on Mars by now. Instead he's wasting money on giant rockets that either explode on launch, or fall apart on descent.
'This is the largest and most powerful rocket launched!' OK, but so what? I don't care how big it is unless you're doing something useful with it.
Why not build smaller rockets that actually survive long enough to reach LEO, or even the moon? Other companies are doing this, but for some strange reason Musk doesn't actually want to achieve anything beyond a spectacle.
I suspect Musk will continue playing with bigger and more powerful rockets until people wake up to the fact that he has no interest in delivering on his promises. Until then, the money will keep rolling in, and he'll keep stalling.
Just like he does with Tesla.
He was supposed to be putting people on Mars by now. Instead he's wasting money on giant rockets that either explode on launch, or fall apart on descent.
'This is the largest and most powerful rocket launched!' OK, but so what? I don't care how big it is unless you're doing something useful with it.
Why not build smaller rockets that actually survive long enough to reach LEO, or even the moon? Other companies are doing this, but for some strange reason Musk doesn't actually want to achieve anything beyond a spectacle.
I suspect Musk will continue playing with bigger and more powerful rockets until people wake up to the fact that he has no interest in delivering on his promises. Until then, the money will keep rolling in, and he'll keep stalling.
Just like he does with Tesla.
Comedy gold, this is satire, right?
Caporegime
It's certainly amusing, but no, it's not satire.
Musk in 2011:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2016:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2020:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2021:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2022:
(Source).
Deadline conveniently kicked down the road yet again.
Musk's most significant space-related achievement to date is ferrying crew and cargo to and from the International Space Station, which is in Low Earth Orbit. He has never sent a rocket beyond LEO, never attempted a mission to the moon, and—despite the endless promises—never reached Mars.
Musk loves spectacle, because it generates media attention and free publicity. He adds unnecessary bells and whistles to his cars, while neglecting quality control. He builds giant rockets that variously blow up or fall apart—which is no doubt great fun, and undeniably an entertaining waste of his shareholders' money—but shows no interest in building something practical that could soar past LEO to the moon or Mars.
With Musk, you typically get two things:
* a huge amount of sizzle
* a half cooked sausage
Case in point:
The Dragon series is his one good sausage.
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Soldato
Yeah but he "could" and "maybe" when asked those questions.
Caporegime
Only two of them. He was dogmatic in his other answers.
Soldato
Remember when Musk was going to solve world hunger?
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Decided to buy X instead.
On a side note; Elon plenty of times doesn't use those words, unfortunately many great Elon quotes are not in articles but in long YouTube videos of him talking. Such as when he announced the Semi; he claimed Semi was more economical and would kill rail goods transportation, he also claimed Semi could haul a huge load when advertising the max weight, go uphill with high speed and faster acceleration than any other truck.
But uptake of the semi by companies has been painfully slow and we've since learnt that Elon's speed and acceleration claims were fake unless the semi had zero load, because as you know truckers like to drag eachother with empty loads for fun it's very important for making money. It also turned out the weight situation, Musk conveniently forgot to mention how much heavier the Semi than other trucks, but still have the same max weight, resulting is a huge reduction in the amount of goods that can be hauled by the semi vs diesel. Oh and the cherry on the top; in the first announcement Musk was quite proud to say the Semi would require no maintenance and then the first deliveries to trucking companies broke on the side of the road after one week and the trucking companies quickly learnt there was no truck servicing network for the Semi, Tesla didn't think it needed it for a vehicle Musk said needs no servicing
Now I can't wait to see the Tesla Roadster 2; Elon Musk stood on stage and said it would do 0-100 in under 1 sec using rocket thrusters and be road legal. Can't wait to see how many porkies he told; oh Elon also said he "thinks" the car will be able to fly for short periods of time using the rocket thrusters...
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He should skip the roadster 2 and go to 69 whilst promising to use nuclear propulsion ala Project Orion.
Soldato
He becomes more Trumpian by the day. How long before we hear "they say we've never seen rocket thrusters like these before, the very best rocket thrusters"He said 10-20 years in 2011, so surely he has until 2031? Maybe maths isn't your strong point?
You realise, designing, building, and testing rockets is actually the beginning of a manned mission to Mars, right?
I think 2026 is ambitious, but it's still 2024, and you're typing "Deadline failed" lol. Are you actually alright? I'm sure Elon Musk and SpaceX are actually trying pretty hard to get this done. I don't imagine building a 5,000 tonne rocket is particularly easy.
Again, that would make it 2031, were you drunk when you typed this?
Is it, because in 2021 he said 2031, and in this quote he's saying 2029? Maybe proof read your post?
Those are things SpaceX has yet to achieve, yes.
Free?
I think you're just showing a massive level of ignorance, which isn't at all surprising, but SpaceX is taking the route of building rockets and launching them where the goal is to gather data and refine issues, it largely expects them to blow up or fall apart. It is actually cost and time effective to do it this way, which is why the much smarter than you engineers at SpaceX have decided to do it.
Sure man, from a guy who spends his time putting out dull 30 minute podcasts every 4 months on a topic no one in their right mind would listen to, while typing endless propaganda pieces on internet forums lmao
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It's certainly amusing, but no, it's not satire.
Musk in 2011:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2016:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2020:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2021:
(Source).
Deadline failed.
Musk in 2022:
(Source).
Deadline conveniently kicked down the road yet again.
Musk's most significant space-related achievement to date is ferrying crew and cargo to and from the International Space Station, which is in Low Earth Orbit. He has never sent a rocket beyond LEO, never attempted a mission to the moon, and—despite the endless promises—never reached Mars.
Musk loves spectacle, because it generates media attention and free publicity. He adds unnecessary bells and whistles to his cars, while neglecting quality control. He builds giant rockets that variously blow up or fall apart—which is no doubt great fun, and undeniably an entertaining waste of his shareholders' money—but shows no interest in building something practical that could soar past LEO to the moon or Mars.
With Musk, you typically get two things:
* a huge amount of sizzle
* a half cooked sausage
Case in point:
The Dragon series is his one good sausage.
Sorry but has to be said. Do you have any self awareness as to how much of a loser you sound like?
A lot of those predictions have yet to lapse Mr Source. But yet it makes no difference to anyones lives if he doesn't make the deadline; it's not like he's sold tickets. He's hell bent on getting there, and the recent launch is making it very likely.
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