Soldato
Sorry but why should the Police get free travel? No wonder the UK's citizens are taxed beyond belief.
The Police Application Thread
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would applying to become a special to **** of the woman at work whose done it and now flouts around on a high horse all high and mighty be wrong?
cause her ending up on the beat with someone shes described as a degenerate would be worth the hassle.
cause her ending up on the beat with someone shes described as a degenerate would be worth the hassle.
The Met pay TFL so they can make sure that they can post officers all around London without it being a logistical nightmare for the officers concerned.
Nice thought, but a) you wouldn't pass recruitment and b) it'll be at least a 12 month wait at minimum. You may not both still be working together by that point.
Soldato
Why wouldn't he pass recruitment? :L
Northants Police are having a big drive but they're doing it for the wrong reason as do most coppers these days :/ Not for giving back it's more for looking down on someone. They talk about how you'll have the same legal authority as a regular copper. -_-
Most forces are trying to get as many Specials as possible to plug the gaps. The reason they mention the powers is that there is a common confusion about Specials and PCSOs which they are trying to dispel rather than appealing to a certain demographic.
From application submission to attestation, the timescale is usually in excess of 12 months.
Medical for one, but I don't think it's a good idea to start discussing that.
I didn't realise PCSO and Specials were different things
Just looked it up. So Specials are pretty much unpaid part time police officers as far as uniform/powers go etc?
I didn't realise PCSO and Specials were different things
Just looked it up. So Specials are pretty much unpaid part time police officers as far as uniform/powers go etc?
Yes, same powers, same uniforms and I do much of the same job. Tasking varies depending on force though. Different forces can utilize Specials very differently. Hampshire are very progressive and have Specials working in specialist departments. For example, we have Specials on the marine unit, so they drive boats and have all of those specialist skills, we have specials in CID, Roads Policing and Special Branch, so there is a lot of ability to grow. The opportunities are only getting wider as forces look to utilize Specials more.
Soldato
For anyone interested, West Mids are recruiting as of Monday.
Good news is they aren't doing the CKP, but unfortunately they want an A Level or equivalent qualification!
Good news is they aren't doing the CKP, but unfortunately they want an A Level or equivalent qualification!
Associate
For my understanding PCSOs are just paid to grass you up or take statements am I right? or do they have powers to do more?
Soldato
As of recently they have been granted more powers. Especially in the met. Differs from force to force though. Most can give FPN and detain. Pretty sure it's under the Police Reform Act
e; Here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117572/pcso-powers.pdf
Some of these aren't in order anymore such as:
Due to this section being repealed.
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Associate
So they have handcuffs now? what happens if someone there trying to detain kicks off?
I don't see the point in paid PCSOs why not just use Specials for that role
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Soldato
So they have handcuffs now? what happens if someone there trying to retain kicks off?
I don't see the point in paid PCSOs why not just use Specials for that role
To be honest. I doubt they have handcuffs. They can only detain for 30 minutes. Specials are normally on duty with paid officers whereas PCSO's work a beat in town centres etc.
e; PCSO's are allowed to carry and use them yet they are not often given them.
they're good at building community relations and listening to complaints etc.
such as findign out where antisocial youths hang out from conversation with people, who wouldn't phone up to report it but if it comes up in convo with a pcso will say something.
Some PCSOs have handcuffs such as BTP and a Welsh force (which one I forget). Their role isn't the same as a Police Officer's though, they are ring fenced to do some of community engagement work which is also a key part of the neighbourhood policing model. It's like a controller doesn't have any powers, but that doesn't mean they're not crucial in their role.
As for crewing, most of the time I am single crewed, so aren't crewed with a PC. Its actually quite nice when there is enough officers to double crew.
Soldato
But going back to your earlier point. I had a conversation over twitter with a special over here and we have quite a few that are highly trained :
e; And also I never said their role wasn't crucial. Our local PCSO has helped me a lot.
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But going back to your earlier point. I had a conversation over twitter with a special over here and we have quite a few that are highly trained
I've heard of a trial in a force in the midlands who are having some Specials to be part of their Tactical Support Group (similar to the Met's TSG) which is some seriously Gucci training.
Soldato
Aye. There are a lot of specials in the met who do TSG training to different levels (some only basic but some high). The SC over here who I chatted to on Twitter does Special Operations in the Operations Tactical Unit.