I've been looking into this too but a commute to Faslane is a bit far!
I reckon it could be pretty boring with not much happening.
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I've been looking into this too but a commute to Faslane is a bit far!
I reckon it could be pretty boring with not much happening.
Ive accepted im going to be relocating one way or another for a job so not a problem for me. But yea worried it will be incredibly boring!
I have no first hand experience but I hear it can be a bit of a bore depending on your posting. I imagine there are some more duller posting than others however (Like Nuclear sites) They are somewhat different to what would be considered 'The Regular Police' in terms of how they operate and I am not sure if there is any transfer system between MDP and 'Regular' Policing.
I see it as a very specialised role rather than a general Policing one. guess it depends what you are looking for. Special Escort Group looks top balls though
What a stupid thing to say. They work rubbish hours, get as close to minimum wage as the gov can get away with, save lives and look after society. Should we just throw that all by the wayside because other people also do important jobs?
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The stories from folk I have known that joined the force is enough to put me off. One person told me of her experiences - dealing with the needy, people that phone the police to solve disputes of the most simple kind but the persons involved are too simple to sort them out without a meltdown of some sort. Also all the proper scum bags that they have to deal with day to day the drunks being the worsed of which there are a lot - she suffered with servere depression in the end as it was her life ambition and she was so disillusioned. She was also shocked at how racist and male oriented the place was but that was only her interpretation of it and I hope that it not true.
Soldato
You are kidding, right?
Starting salary is £23,727 and the average working week is 40 hours making even the starting wage over £11/hour... You think this is close to minimum wage?
Yes, they work on sometimes and get rest days cancelled for courts but they get overtime and re-rostered days for cancelled rest days so they get compensated for it.
The top wage (which is given after 10 years service irrespective of capability) is £37,254 or £18/hour
NMW? eh, no....
You are kidding, right?
Starting salary is £23,727 and the average working week is 40 hours making even the starting wage over £11/hour... You think this is close to minimum wage?
Yes, they work on sometimes and get rest days cancelled for courts but they get overtime and re-rostered days for cancelled rest days so they get compensated for it.
The top wage (which is given after 10 years service irrespective of capability) is £37,254 or £18/hour
NMW? eh, no....
I agree with your point, but starting salaries are lower now, down to around £19,000 thanks to Windsor.
He said as far as they can get away with. You know the part you missed out completely that he used to qualify his statement.
Soldato
Although this is true for E&W, you now accelerate up the pay points much faster:
Old scheme - https://www.westmidspolfed.com/advice-regs/?/Pay/Pay-Scales
New Scheme - https://www.surrey.police.uk/Careers/Police-Officers/Police-constable-pay-scale
Soldato
He said as far as they can get away with. You know the part you missed out completely that he used to qualify his statement.
If it was even close to NMW then I would not have said it but the wage for a cop is so far away from the NMW that its not even comparable.
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NMW = £6.50 (for over 21's) - https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
Cop starting wage = £9.13/hour (40 hours/week)
Its roughly 40% more than NMW
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Whilst not a police officer I'd still definitely agree it's low considering the work that they do. The crap that they have to put up with. Oh and you know...the frequent risk of violence!
Soldato
I considered CNC for a while, which is sort of similar in most parts. Firearms policing is one of my aims eventually, and the training, and some of the opportunities to specialise seemed great. I spoke with some officers who are on the escorts team, and they spoke very highly of it.
The issues for me though, were that I'd have to completely relocate, possibly to somewhere extremely remote hours away from home, and the 'standard', (ie none-specialised), role seems to be little more than armed security for the most part. Its most definitely not what most people consider to be 'policing', and far away from what I'd grown used to working as a special. Even if CNC officers do come across jobs, they just hand them over. Anyone arrested is just de-arrested and handed over when local officers arrive.
I know the MOD police is different in that they have a CID, and do investigate some stuff, but for your standard front line bobby its still a very different job to what most people think of as policing.
Soldato
It's not quite as simple as that, statistics don't really accurately reflect what happens on a day-to-day basis. I know that sounds like an excuse, but its true.
I've been pushed, shoved, spat at, punched, kicked, headbutted, strangled, thrown to the floor and had more roll arounds than I can remember. Only once has one been recorded as an assault on me. Thats before we consider the abuse I've received and the threats to me, to my colleagues, to my family, and the people who tried to attack me but were stopped before they could.
Most people would consider that as being exposed to violence. If you worked in a shop and someone did that you'd be straight on the phone to the police, but for cops thats just part of every day life.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I don't expect any different. Its what I choose to do for a living. I'm just pointing out that statistics might not reflect it, but violence is a part of day to day life for front line police officers, far more so than other professions. For a start, we can't walk away from confrontation like others can.
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Back in '96 when I was 21 yrs old I applied to GMP. I got all the way through to final interview and was told to go away and come back with more 'life experience'. I joined the RAF instead and leave there in 11 months after nearly 19 years Service.
As I will be 40 I am looking for a new 'career'. I looked at the Police again but can't afford to live on the pay! As a result I'm looking at the Specials but can't apply whilst serving in the Armed Forces.
As I will be 40 I am looking for a new 'career'. I looked at the Police again but can't afford to live on the pay! As a result I'm looking at the Specials but can't apply whilst serving in the Armed Forces.
however the sult could have been "stabbed multiple times to the chest" but because hes wearing a stab proof vest thats onlly minor bruising hell get.
Attempted murder? You are optimistic. It'd probably be downgraded to an ABH and he'll get off with some community service. I'm not even exaggerating.
The CPS don't like going with attempted murder, in situations like that, as you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there was intent to kill. For something like that, they'd want a charge for ABH or attempted GBH and possession of the knife depending on where the assault took place.
I can't show you anything public but the defence was that he was high on drugs and had no intent to murder.
ABH is dealt with as a pretty low level offence these days.
Soldato
So was it dealt with as ABH or, as they do, was it just the defence's plan of action to argue the case using the drugs and non-intent to defend against Attempt Murder?