The Police Application Thread

Police pay like fire person pay must be sufficient as I haven't heard of a shortage of applicants at any time in my life in fact given the difficulty of getting into either job due to the very high number of applicants I'd say the rewards on offer are probably more than adequate.
 
Zbornak said:
The CPS don't like going with attempted murder, in situations like that, as you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there was intent to kill. For something like that, they'd want a charge for ABH or attempted GBH and possession of the knife depending on where the assault took place.
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That's often the difficulty with charging standards for attempted murder as you have to prove an intent to kill, unlike murder itself where intent to cause GBH is enough should the victim not survive.
 
I'm Police Civilian Staff, albeit outsourced (we change companies on the 1st April).

My official title is Designated Detention officer. I prefer the term Jailer.

We work exclusively in custody (although we occasionally get dragged out into the van dock for a scrap), everything from booking detainees (prisoners) in on the computerised systems, to taking fingerprints/photographs/DNA samples for comparison to the national fingerprint/DNA system, fighting with non compliant detainees (prisoners), stopping self harmers, cell watches, CCTV watches, evidence gathering and preparing charges/cautions and sending people to court.

Our pay is about he same as a probationary PC and we do a 4 on/4 off shift pattern 12 hour shifts, 2 days and 2 nights, although recently I've been caning the overtime and I'm on my 7th day of 12 on.

I've been doing it for coming up 8 years and I love it.
 
Sin_Chase said:
I have no first hand experience but I hear it can be a bit of a bore depending on your posting. I imagine there are some more duller posting than others however (Like Nuclear sites)
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The MOD don't do nuclear sites, that's done by the CNC (Civil Nuclear Constabulary).
 
Evo8 said:
The MOD don't do nuclear sites, that's done by the CNC (Civil Nuclear Constabulary).
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CNC protect nuclear energy sites hence the 'Civil' in their name and their previous name of UK Atomic Energy Authority Constabulary. Anything to do with nuclear weapons/defence is MDP though.
 
Went to an incident last night where a person with mental health issues slashed their own neck with a craft knife, luckily missing anything vital. Off to hospital, assessed by the crisis team who said the person was fine and cuffed it back to police - a scenario getting more and more common. I can only do so much for such folks - as much as I can don't get me wrong - but I'm not a mental health professional.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Went to an incident last night where a person with mental health issues slashed their own neck with a craft knife, luckily missing anything vital. Off to hospital, assessed by the crisis team who said the person was fine and cuffed it back to police - a scenario getting more and more common. I can only do so much for such folks - as much as I can don't get me wrong - but I'm not a mental health professional.
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We had 3 detained for s136 MHA in one night over the weekend. The Mental Health Teams had all cleared off at 16:30 on Friday night and the "Out of Hours" teams were all busy... :/

Police custody is *not* the place for people suffering MH problems.
 
A few weeks ago was the best one yet .....

I went to a job where a bloke said he was feeling down as his other half had left him. He declined ambulance, hadn't self harmed, said he was going to sleep so he was left in the care of his mother. I submitted a VA report on returning.

A few hours later we received a call he was on a bridge and wanted to jump. I got there to see him shouting at another officer and as I pulled up he recognised me, chilled a bit and after a bit crack he came down and although 136 was an option, he agreed to go to a mental health hospital voluntarily and I went with him.

He was assessed and two lasses from the crisis team said the facility weren't there for his alcohol issues and to dry out and said take him home.

I pointed out the question, what if he goes back out and kills himself ? The reply was, and I quote .....

' Well it would just be recorded as misadventure. '

I went ballistic with them highlighting that it would be death following police contact, that I would be in the **** and that a man in need of help would have been failed and yet again the crisis team cuff it to the police to sort. They wouldn't budge and I had no option but to bring the bloke in for a BoP pending further assessment but not before the two crisis team lasses were left in no doubt how I viewed the comment made.

Yet again, a person with mental health issues who shouldn't have been in a police cell ended up in a police cell.

It's not often, nay very rare, that I take matters further with partner agencies but I did with this one. 50% of incidents I attend are concerns/mental health related and the crisis team often cuff to us, especially on a friday at about half three prior to weekend off.
 
I've had shouting matches with Mental Health "professionals" over the phone innumerable times.

I remember one man who was acutely mentally ill, built like a brick outhouse, stripped naked and spent 4 hours threatening to kill anyone who came near the cell. Little baby Jebus, he was gifted in the trouser snake department, he looked like a tripod.

The mental health team *eventually* came out and the lead psychiatrist just stood back while the other two minions attempted to reason with him. After about 0.3 seconds he did that "cuckoo" twirly finger round his head. He got sectioned.

They has to raise a Level 2 trained MAST team to get him a) clothed and b) into the transport to the local MH hospital.

And another time they sent as "secure" ambulance to take another acutely ill person to the MH hospital, the 2 staff in the ambulance wouldn't have looked out of place in Dad's Army, theire combined age must've been 120! I think we escorted that one to the ambulance (against force protocol ;))
 
Maybe not relevant as job applied for was a service advisor role but thought id ask in here anyway.

Applied for Service advisor role with the police a month ago maybe just over a month now.
I attended a competency based interview a couple of weeks ago. I feel the interview went really well. However there was a typing test which i feel i was slow at.

Just received an email few hours ago to say i'd missed out my mothers maiden name in my forms and to confirm it. Obviously a small boo boo but a boo boo nonetheless.

Anyway in the email it said as you are aware ( i wasn't) your application is currently at vetting stage and we need info above.

Anybody who is clued up in the recruitment process know if this is a good sign? I was going to phone in to enquire about the outcome few day's ago but the closing date for apps was only few day's ago so i put it off for now.
 
It's impossible to tell really, it depends at what stage they do the vetting process! With PC jobs its usually left to the end to save them vetting every applicant for a small number of jobs, but for a staff role there's probably a lot less applicants, and they may have chosen to do it at the same time as other stages of the process.
 
Turns out that Teresa May visiting my station wasn't an April fools...

I made a speedy exit to a jab before she arrived. I don't really do hob nobbing with politicians, especially a Home Secretary like Ms May.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Turns out that Teresa May visiting my station wasn't an April fools...

I made a speedy exit to a jab before she arrived. I don't really do hob nobbing with politicians, especially a Home Secretary like Ms May.
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should have offered to demonstrate effective use of a taser.
 
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