The R word

Tony Edwards said:
Lets take this thread what is it about?
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There's no hidden agenda here. It's a simple question to long time members, asking if they've noticed a swing back in the other direction as I'm aware this place did have issues with racism early on.

Psycho Sonny said:
So with such a person at the helm it seemed to attract fellow minded people. They have always been there it's just people turned a blind eye to it. The mods are likley all white so they will never see anything from the other side or if they are coloured likley whitewashed with no real sense of their ethnicity.

It's pretty obvious with all the race baiting threads and the same people spewing racist rhetoric.
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I think that's jumping to conclusions a bit. So all of the mod team are white and because of that, they don't know what racism is?
 
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Narj said:
It's just become the default term to use when someone wants to shut a discussion down is all.
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This is basically the thing. It's a tool used by the ill-liberal and intolerant to shut you down. They have made the term meaningless now.

The UK especially over the last few decades has in whole become more liberal in the classic sense.

With the decline of mainstream religion, we are more tolerant to changes like when BAME people migrated in the 50's-60's and 70's and then homosexuality in the 80's. As each generation comes along, the shift towards more tolerance is then natural.

The problem now, is there is less for the mostly leftist ideologies to then get upset about and have a cause to promote.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I even remember the last time I took the train to work. Table of 4 with 1 spare seat. I sat down and the woman across from me giving me dirty looks. She lasted all of 15 seconds before she got up and left.
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Are you black? Is it possible that she took issue with something else other than your race, e.g. were you eating something, listening to music etc?
 
Ayahuasca said:
There's no hidden agenda here. It's a simple question to long time members, asking if they've noticed a swing back in the other direction as I'm aware this place did have issues with racism early on.
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I think that maybe people dont really understand it. Its a bit like the Labour antisemitism row. A lot of lefties who would probably swear on their childrens lifes that they arent racist in anyway and didnt/dont accept that denigrating jews just because they are jewish is racist.

Its not just rightwingers that dont realise they are saying racist things or heading down that route.
 
The term is just thrown around by a bunch of fools that don't know what actual racism is. Funniest example Ive seen here recently was over in the football forum, a poster was talking about how Sterling isn't really a role model given his past history and use of the ballon party drug that was pretty rampant amongst brain dead footballers and one of the usual called him a racist because of it. Unfortunately, there seems to be a large subset of people that spend time online (with a left-leaning ideological leaning) that perceive criticism of someone nonwhite as racist, when it's just simply criticism.
 
Lysander said:
Are you black? Is it possible that she took issue with something else other than your race, e.g. were you eating something, listening to music etc?
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I'm Asian, sikh / Indian to be exact. She probably thought I was a terrorist because I had a backpack in my lap with my work laptop, water bottle and sometimes my lunch inside. I'd have happily showed her it wasnt a bomb.

Yes I do sometimes sport a beard.
 
Tony Edwards said:
Unfortunalty people are more subtle than that.

Lets take this thread what is it about? Is it about people complaining that they cant have threads that are all about denigrating races or is it just white noise?

The proms thread isnt really about a song not being sung. Its about the percieved effect BLM has had on it. It wouldnt surprise me to find the same people dont understand the golliwog uproar.

It seems to me there are a lot of anti anti racist which I dont really understand.
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Oh believe me I know, but if people are being subtle and careful not to overtly break the rules then there's not much you can do other than engage if you want.

Newbie007 said:
The term is just thrown around by a bunch of fools that don't know what actual racism is. Funniest example Ive seen here recently was over in the football forum, a poster was talking about how Sterling isn't really a role model given his past history and use of the ballon party drug that was pretty rampant amongst brain dead footballers and one of the usual called him a racist because of it. Unfortunately, there seems to be a large subset of people that spend time online (with a left-leaning ideological leaning) that perceive criticism of someone nonwhite as racist, when it's just simply criticism.
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Nah they were referring to a specific user who constantly posts vile nonsense but never engages with the replies to their posts.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Is it purely down to what's happened recently in the US and the BLM movement or are people truly becoming more openly racist again?
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No, I think what happened in the US is a reaction to a mixture of racist paranoia and growing racial emancipation, both fostered by social media. Then, as the older traditions got shut down or swept under the carpet, patriotism grew, which people confused with racism and xenophia which fed the paranoia. The processes are symbiotic, and it reached a head with the US killing. George was a terrible person to make a martyr: a small-time aggressive crook and porn star, but the need for a martyr or a spearhead was pressing, and that need became more important than having a noble figurehead.
 
I thought this was about the other R word you apparently can't say anymore.

When it comes to racism why don't people call it out when it happens, so many celebrities seem to have these harrowing tales of things that happened to them that we are just meant to believe at face value with no actual evidence?

Will evidence be the new word leftys try to get rid of next?
 
Ayahuasca said:
There's no hidden agenda here. It's a simple question to long time members, asking if they've noticed a swing back in the other direction as I'm aware this place did have issues with racism early on.



I think that's jumping to conclusions a bit. So all of the mod team are white and because of that they don't know what racism is?
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Would a white person sense prejudice in the same way as a person who is non white?

My train example is a great one.

I can guarantee you the other 2 white people had no clue what had just happened.

She got up because of me. They likley never even noticed what had happened because they are oblivious to the small things people do or say or the way they say them.

My mum was scarred for life on her face by a racist she needed stitches across her face.

Now that's an obvious case when someone is shouting the word **** at you and throws stuff at you.

It's the not so obvious stuff with is much harder for white people to see as they have never been on the receiving end.
 
Will Gill said:
Plenty of content gets removed, but I do share your frustration with a lot of the recent posts but as no rules are actually broken the recent dross remains.
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Try writing a rule banning the word and it's derivatives or at least star it out as other derogatory words are. Because to be honest it is being used not as a topic word but as an insult largely.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Is it purely down to what's happened recently in the US and the BLM movement or are people truly becoming more openly racist again?
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As always it is a bit of both, mixed in with the prevalence of US vs THEM rhetoric. These are complex issues and when people try and distill them to 280 character sound bites you lose perspective.
 
GIBURROWS said:
I thought this was about the other R word you apparently can't say anymore.

When it comes to racism why don't people call it out when it happens, so many celebrities seem to have these harrowing tales of things that happened to them that we are just meant to believe at face value with no actual evidence?

Will evidence be the new word leftys try to get rid of next?
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A bit like the #metoo movement you mean?

Most people will allow a lot of things to happen or go out of their way to not make a scene. Lets take standing in a queue and someone pushes in. Only a handful of people if that will actually say anything.

A lot of this forum is like a school yard at times with a lot of bullying.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I can guarantee you the other 2 white people had no clue what had just happened.

She got up because of me. They likely never even noticed what had happened because they are oblivious to the small things people do or say or the way they say them.
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If they are truly oblivious, do you think they are at fault somehow?

It's one thing not seeing/noticing these subtle things and another recognising them and not addressing it there and then.
 
plasmahal said:
If they are truly oblivious, do you think they are at fault somehow?

It's one thing not seeing/noticing these subtle things and another recognising them and not addressing it there and then.
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Im sorry but coming from a Trump supporter that is actually really funny.
Hagar said:
Try writing a rule banning the word and it's derivatives or at least star it out as other derogatory words are. Because to be honest it is being used not as a topic word but as an insult largely.
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Its certainly not a badge of honour. I have to say trying to get the word racist banned is absurd.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Would a white person sense prejudice in the same way as a person who is non white?

My train example is a great one.

I can guarantee you the other 2 white people had no clue what had just happened.

She got up because of me. They likley never even noticed what had happened because they are oblivious to the small things people do or say or the way they say them.

My mum was scarred for life on her face by a racist she needed stitches across her face.

Now that's an obvious case when someone is shouting the word **** at you and throws stuff at you.

It's the not so obvious stuff with is much harder for white people to see as they have never been on the receiving end.
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I'm not even sure we're discussing the same point here? The examples you've provided I'm unable to question and if they happened as described then yes that likely is racism at play. What we have here though are posts on a forum that moderators are able to review and discuss. You've assumed that the whole mod team are white or "whitewashed" and if so, that then means they don't understand what racism is or they simply can't see it. It can't be that subtle either as a number of white posters are able to spot it so easily on a daily basis. It just seems to be a fairly baseless accusation to state that the mods aren't clever enough to spot it or even worse, they turn a blind eye to it.

This thread was an attempt to get to the bottom of how common it is on here. I'm well aware that racism still exists and is prevalent in some areas.
 
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