Caporegime
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Tbf if you're apprehensive you could make that 3070 last you til the next gen easily, just depends if you can wait 15/16 months for it.
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The Radeon RX 7900 XT(X) Owners Thread.
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Soldato
That is what I'm edging towards.
Almost 8 months (?) into the launch cycle and once the "oh looks its shiny" glamour eases a bit then I just carry on. Hence, the link I included, just drop the textures a little if VRAM is an issue etc.
Not sure how much sense, to me, it would make buying into something from mid cycle onwards, of releases. Unless temptation / pricing etc reflects that.
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Yup, it won't be noticed if the game is good and immersive anyhow (I doubt lowering a setting or 2 will break immersion).
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The more I look into overclocking the XTX, the more it confuses me.
My current XTX shader clocks refuses to go above 2850Mhz or so, as reported in Adrenaline. In fact, changing the max clock slider in adrenaline seems to do nothing for this.
However, what does seem to happen is that my front-end clocks go to the moon (3.3Ghz) but obviously you can only really see this in something like HwInfo, if you only use Adrenaline it seems like nothing is changing.
When people are talking about clocks hitting 3Ghz+ are they talking about what adrenaline is reporting or their front-end clocks? My ASIC is 47%, and my reference XTX that I had to return would hit 3.1ghz in adrenalin (before hitting 110C lol). I don't think I ever checked the front end on that card.
Should I be more focused on shader clocks? Tbh I don't even know what the difference is!
Below is a screenshot of my GPU results just sitting in Wonderlands. I'm using the main menu in Tiny Tina's Wonderlands as a benchmark as it's 3D and is good at crashing when my UVs are unstable.
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Are these normal results or am I just being obsessive??
My current XTX shader clocks refuses to go above 2850Mhz or so, as reported in Adrenaline. In fact, changing the max clock slider in adrenaline seems to do nothing for this.
However, what does seem to happen is that my front-end clocks go to the moon (3.3Ghz) but obviously you can only really see this in something like HwInfo, if you only use Adrenaline it seems like nothing is changing.
When people are talking about clocks hitting 3Ghz+ are they talking about what adrenaline is reporting or their front-end clocks? My ASIC is 47%, and my reference XTX that I had to return would hit 3.1ghz in adrenalin (before hitting 110C lol). I don't think I ever checked the front end on that card.
Should I be more focused on shader clocks? Tbh I don't even know what the difference is!
Below is a screenshot of my GPU results just sitting in Wonderlands. I'm using the main menu in Tiny Tina's Wonderlands as a benchmark as it's 3D and is good at crashing when my UVs are unstable.
Settings:
Are these normal results or am I just being obsessive??
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Soldato
In game, to me...............................zero.
for pixel peeping screenshot comparisons, probably little. And that isn't how I play the game.
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Thinking of overclocking/undervolting my 7900XT Pulse and wondering if there are any benefits to doing it in the driver software over using Afterburner?
Also, does anyone have some "safe" starting values I can try?
Also, does anyone have some "safe" starting values I can try?
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It will be game dependent on whether to boost shaders or front end to get the best results. Some games will be shader heavy (Cyberjunk I guess) and others will be needing more texture fill capabilities from the front end (maybe MW2).
You can test until the cows come home and not find the best balance between the 2. My advice is to undervolt and push power limits up by 15% and leave the clocks to sort themselves out. Other may have more relevant tips for individual games.
It will be game dependent on whether to boost shaders or front end to get the best results. Some games will be shader heavy (Cyberjunk I guess) and others will be needing more texture fill capabilities from the front end (maybe MW2).
You can test until the cows come home and not find the best balance between the 2. My advice is to undervolt and push power limits up by 15% and leave the clocks to sort themselves out. Other may have more relevant tips for individual games.
My advice is to undervolt and push power limits up by 15% and leave the clocks to sort themselves out. Other may have more relevant tips for individual games.
This is also applicable advice for you Googaly, use the Adrenaline software and test with 1100mV and it should be stable for most games. Can also put memory clocks up by 150mhz as well but no matter what you do test and see how it works out, sometimes a change can dramatically decrease performance.
Caporegime
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I do it in AB, sick to death of Wattman losing settings over time (if you want them to stick you need to create a game profile that's the only way).
I do, but it's the MSI 6600XT Gaming X, much lower power and a really quiet cooler.
Before than I had the PowerColor Red Devil Vega 64, fans weren't noisy but that card had horrendous coil whine.
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Hello
I've been have continued issues with the sapphire MBA 7900 xtx and wondered if anyone could help. Specifically, the driver seems to repeatedly and randomly crash in certain games, recovers, then the scaling goes wacky (as if it's suddenly 1080p Vs 2160p). This has happened far more frequently after the first driver released in the new year, reverting, troubleshooting individual components (PSU, RAM etc), using older/newer drivers, reinstalling OS, MPO overlay have all failed to resolve the issue.
As a last resort I've made contact with overclockers support to look into RMA.
If anyone has had any similar experience or a resolution, any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I've been have continued issues with the sapphire MBA 7900 xtx and wondered if anyone could help. Specifically, the driver seems to repeatedly and randomly crash in certain games, recovers, then the scaling goes wacky (as if it's suddenly 1080p Vs 2160p). This has happened far more frequently after the first driver released in the new year, reverting, troubleshooting individual components (PSU, RAM etc), using older/newer drivers, reinstalling OS, MPO overlay have all failed to resolve the issue.
As a last resort I've made contact with overclockers support to look into RMA.
If anyone has had any similar experience or a resolution, any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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If you don't use any of the AMD software then try installing with the 'driver only' option instead of the Full Install, it can fix certain issues.
Soldato
If you did change over to a 7900XT then the change could be beneficial for you, if it is also quiet enough. So far the pricing does seem to be heading, for once, in the right direction. At least for the XT card. Long may that continue.
I have a MSI 3070 Gaming X, altho they later brought out the "Z". That has been a great and very silent card. Very pleased overall.
How's your 7900xt coping with your Ultrawide, are you using high/max game settings?
I'm building my son a PC for Christmas and he wants an Ultrawide monitor and I was planning on going 1440 to.
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Not received it yet. I'm sure others have the combo though.
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What games will he play? If cod is one of them it's insane at that game. I've limited the game to 175fps for my monitor but it easily hits 260-300fps
Not really noticed any problems rendering games at 3440*1440 on mine, usually doesn't dip below 100fps unless it's a ray traced title (I don't really play those)
New Ram 1 was slower than New Ram 2 in some tests, which was already weird because I'm talking about 60ns vs 57.5ns... More read and write too.. Then as I had a new baseline for the New Ram 2, I carried on benching as usual. Worse result overall with 23.4.3.. I wanted to install 23.4.2 and run it all again with only XMP enabled (3600 CL16 falt), then load once again the profile with tighten timings to see what's going on but I don't have time right now.
Did another run ("Round 2" row) of the 23.4.3 benches, they are now more aligned with what it should be. Can't know what was the issue, just woke up, switched the pc on and ran all over again.
Later on I will revert to 23.4.2 to confirm the deviation.
"New driver, new table.
Same story, ddu previous driver, uninstall chipset driver. Install new driver, install chipset driver, run benches."
| Driver | FireStrike | FS Extreme | FS Ultra | TimeSpy | TS Extreme | Speed Way | Port Royal |
| 4080 Trinity OC + 528.29 W10 Pro SR | 68609 | 34777 | 17694 | 28372 | 14147 | 7237 | 17804 |
| 7900 XTX Red Devil + 23.2.2 W10 Pro SR | 80771 | 39176 | 19973 | 29118 | 14677 | 6063 | 15850 |
| 7900 XTX Nitro+ 23.2.2 W10 Pro SR | 80956 | 40863 | 20865 | 30339 | 15073 | 6153 | 16379 |
| Nitro+ 23.3.1 W10 Pro SR | 80713 | 40615 | 20728 | 30467 | 15067 | 6268 | 16331 |
| Nitro+ 23.3.2 W10 Pro SR | 81003 | 40982 | 20934 | 30727 | 15188 | 6278 | 16551 |
| Nitro+ 23.4.1 W10 Pro SR | 80999 | 41028 | 20909 | 30639 | 15142 | 6276 | 16560 |
| Nitro+ 23.4.2 W10 Pro SR | 81441 | 41213 | 21038 | 30691 | 15226 | 6468 | 16779 |
| Nitro+ 23.4.2 W10 Pro - New Ram 1 SR | 82412 | 41637 | 21150 | 30759 | 15280 | 6499 | 16880 |
| Nitro+ 23.4.2 W10 Pro - New Ram 2 DR | 82967 | 41686 | 21150 | 30934 | 15328 | 6483 | 16844 |
| Nitro+ 23.4.3 W10 Pro - New Ram 2 DR / Round 2 | 82674 | 41639 | 21096 | 30964 | 15325 | 6477 | 16784 |
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At the moment he only plays Fortnite on his xbox x, but I promised him a gaming PC for Christmas/birthday. I have no idea what he will play, but I want it to last him a while.
At the moment he only plays Fortnite on his xbox x, but I promised him a gaming PC for Christmas/birthday. I have no idea what he will play, but I want it to last him a while.
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Then you can't really go wrong at the price/performance with the 7900xtx, team it with a 7800x3d, 32gb of ddr5 and you'll have a system that will last a very long time.
It would only be ray tracing that would fall behind the 4080 but tbh it's never been something that has bothered me. The drop in FPS is not worth the miniscule difference in image quality (at least to me)
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