The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

[jas72]

Just think how many hospitals it could have been spent on....

So 35 out of 118 loans were deemed to be taxable? Bugger for those employees who got those wrongly worded letters.

Either way, it matters not. Oldco are dead. It has been proven they acted without integrity. Legal or not, the "loans" were merely enticements to play for old Rangers, salaried or not.

It is safe to say we can continue to call them cheats

Nope you cannot as nothing has yet been proven we await the judgement on dual contracts. (Even that isn't really cheating it's a paperwork exercise which doesn't change the fact Rangers won these titles on the park. The players were registered with the SFA.) The only shame in this saga is HMRC spending 3 million chasing 2 million in tax while stating that Rangers owed 75 million putting off potential bidders. Rangers worked within all the rules remember EBT's were LEGAL and Rangers use of them has also been deemed legal. Also the company that sold Rangers football club to Mr Green during administration is not yet formally wound up so is not yet dead.



You can call Rangers what you want Jamesy and no doubt you do but legally they did not cheat.

 

[strocky]

No rangers are not liable as it was a loan scheme and not illegal. It's those who took these loans that can get a call from liquidators for the loaned money back. The big thing is the CVS would have passed as hmrc would not have had as big a claim. There will I'm sure be some kind of fallout from this. I wonder if Celtic sorry the spl well still be chasing the stripping of trophies.

That appears to be at odds with what Ronald Watterus's agent was told when he questioned the method of contractual payment (according to the BBC documentary)

"His agent was told by a club representative that using the trust was “in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free”.

The representative added: "I can confirm that we will not pay these amounts to [Ronald] unless they are made through the use of the remuneration trust."

I find it hard to believe that so many player's agents didn't realise that the large portion of their salary paid via EBT's was in fact a loan and not a contractual payment

As for the stripping of titles as you've constantly been reminded on here the use of EBT's and players having a side contract as well as the contract lodged with the SFA are two SEPERATE issues and one does not discount the other

 

[strocky]

I cant see HMRC appealing it, even if oldco lost, HMRC where never going to receive that money.

Wrong

 

[strocky]

I stopped reading at "By James Traynor". He is a proper idiot, one of those journalists who lapped up everything Murray said.

Author of the infamous "why don't you go home Irish Celtic fans" piece and rumoured to be RANGERS new PR Man

 

[afraser2k]

Just confirmed today Traynor has become the new director of communications at Rangers. Chick Young must be gutted at losing out on that post.

 

[strocky]

Sevco Prospectus out as well shows Charlie Green & The Boys with their snout well and truly in the trough at the new club

 

[strocky]

Author of the infamous "why don't you go home Irish Celtic fans" piece and rumoured to be RANGERS new PR Man

Which MOD edited my post and didn't have the courtesy to leave an edit stamp?

 

[Jokester]

Which MOD edited my post and didn't have the courtesy to leave an edit stamp?

It wasn't me, but can you refer to Rangers as Rangers please, no matter what they used to be called.

Looking at the figures, it's no wonder they've had to do the share offer as they're hemorrhaging cash.

 

[McMav]

It wasn't me, but can you refer to Rangers as Rangers please, no matter what they used to be called.

Looking at the figures, it's no wonder they've had to do the share offer as they're hemorrhaging cash.

What figures would those be?

 

[Jokester]

What figures would those be?

The ones in the prospectus.

 

[McMav]

Ah like the 5 million to spend on the stadium and the like?

 

[Jokester]

Ah like the 5 million to spend on the stadium and the like?

They haven't spent £5m on the stadium, that's what they've said they'll spend some of the cash raised from the shares issue on.

 

[McMav]

I know that's what I was asking you was it those figures you were on about?

 

[strocky]

It wasn't me, but can you refer to Rangers as Rangers please, no matter what they used to be called.

Looking at the figures, it's no wonder they've had to do the share offer as they're hemorrhaging cash.

As long as your not being abusive I don't see what the problem is

So i take it Triggers Broom FC or Norman Bates FC is out of bounds?

 

[TheGamingGeneral]

Wrong

Easy to say after the fact eh bubba

 

[McMav]

On behalf of everyone at the Scottish Football League I would like to add my sincere congratulations to Rangers on Achieving this magnificant milestone in the club's history.

Rangers have brought great honour and distinction to Scottish football throughout these 140 years and the club has risen to every challenge it has faced.

There is something rather poignant that after 140 years the club is once again a member of the organisation it helped found in 1890 and we are honoured and proud to have Rangers in the league.

To everyone involved in the club and its remarkable and loyal fans Happy Anniversary.

David Longmuir
Chief Executive

 

[jas72]

I was there at the weekend very emotional 2nd biggest crowd in the UK last Saturday sell out 49913 a new record for 4th tier football no bad for a team in Div 3 eh?

Oh I paid 18 quid for my ticket I didn't get in for free

Roll on May and title number 55!

Was there with my niece and not one sectarian song was sung during the whole match very impressed by the Union Bears who created a great atmosphere and loved singing the blue sea of ibrox

 

[strocky]

On behalf of everyone at the Scottish Football League I would like to add my sincere congratulations to Rangers on Achieving this magnificant milestone in the club's history.

Rangers have brought great honour and distinction to Scottish football throughout these 140 years and the club has risen to every challenge it has faced.

There is something rather poignant that after 140 years the club is once again a member of the organisation it helped found in 1890 and we are honoured and proud to have Rangers in the league.

To everyone involved in the club and its remarkable and loyal fans Happy Anniversary.

David Longmuir
Chief Executive

Walter Smith (June 2012)

"We wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18503656


Charlie Green (June 2012)

CVA = History Kept, Liquidation = History Gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0IkDTPQWU


Jim Traynor

"No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died"

Even the Prospectus states that there's a new club in town

RFCL acquired the assets and business of the Club on 14 June 2012 from
RFC 2012 plc and now operates the Club and other ancillary businesses.

https://www.rangersshareoffer.com/Prospectus.pdf

 

[strocky]

I was there at the weekend very emotional 2nd biggest crowd in the UK last Saturday sell out 49913 a new world record for 4th tier football no bad for a team in Div 3 eh?

Oh I paid 18 quid for my ticket I didn't get in for free

Roll on May and title number 1!

Was there with my niece and not one sectarian song was sung during the whole match very impressed by the Union Bears who created a great atmosphere and loved singing the blue sea of ibrox

Even your lies are lies

http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/24837_fourth-tier_game_attracts_60_000_spectators.html

 

[McMav]

Walter Smith (June 2012)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18503656


Charlie Green (June 2012)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0IkDTPQWU


Jim Traynor



Even the Prospectus states that there's a new club in town



https://www.rangersshareoffer.com/Prospectus.pdf

Obsessed much?