The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

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Metalface Mark said:
Until this all happened then I would have said not, however he has came out with some howlers this year in defence of Rangers, at the weekend suggesting that they get rid of the evidence rather than give it to the SPL pretty much was the final nail in his coffin for me.
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This is the same Chicko who said that the treble was in the bag for Celtic after Gers went into admin. Look how accurate he was with that one :p
 
No contact between FIFA and SFA re rangers going to Court of Session since yesterday's verdict

From Alasdair Lamont's twitter. So someone has been talking bs regarding FIFA wanting the book thrown at Rangers.
 
The bottom line is this, the SFA don't have much room to manouvre on this issue. They already stated that expulsion or suspension was "too severe" so have in effect prejudiced that punishment already. They have already lost 1 battle in the civil courts. Do you think Rangers would not take such an appeal of a sanction already deemed "too severe" to a civil court.

Does the SFA have the resources to be losing in court while paying both legal costs? Because, I can assure you if expulsion or suspension was the sanction handed down Rangers would have nothing left to lose by taking it all the way. Do the SFA have the appetite for that?

Given Regan's stance regarding Lennon's appeal last year, i would suggest not.
 
All this talk of FIFA punishments is a red herring.

FIFA have said that Rangers need to be punished (within the scope of the rules)

Rangers went to court to overturn the punishment because it was not in the rules so therefore unlawful.

SFA now need to give a punishment that is in the rulebooks. Once that is done, FIFA will have nothing more to say on the matter.


The FC Sion case is irrelevant to this one. It is entirely different because the sanctions that were overturned were FIFA's not the Swiss FA's.
 
Gav said:
No, the SFA have to go back and reconsider the options available to them. They have already stated that suspension or expulsion were too severe. That only leaves suspension from the Scottish cup.

Since the fine is already at the maximum, I would guess that suspension from the Scottish Cup is the likely punishment that will be handed down. I would also guess that it will be a 3-5 year suspension.
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Expulsion was too severe for the paye issue, it does not mean they can't be expelled for taking it to court. It's a different sanction for a different issue.
 
Metalface Mark said:
The general feeling is based on SPL chairmen comments today, the fact Rangers broke Fifa law and the fact that they cant punish Rangers less than they did, so they will obviously have to punish them more.
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You will find that they have to punish them equally but within the confines of the rules.

no more, no less
 
McMav said:
Didnt see that only saw they thought the £100000 on its own was to lenient. Other options too severe never read anywhere that Cup ban was too lenient.
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The sanctions available included expulsion from participation in the game and termination or suspension of membership of the Scottish FA, which would have had a similar effect. The Appellate Tribunal observes that serious consideration was given by the disciplinary tribunal to imposing one of these sanctions, which would have had obvious consequences for the survival of the club. The Disciplinary Tribunal rejected these as too severe and this Appellate Tribunal agrees with that conclusion.

Obviously the cup thing was not severe enough or they would have given it at the time.
 
Metalface Mark said:
The sanctions available included expulsion from participation in the game and termination or suspension of membership of the Scottish FA, which would have had a similar effect. The Appellate Tribunal observes that serious consideration was given by the disciplinary tribunal to imposing one of these sanctions, which would have had obvious consequences for the survival of the club. The Disciplinary Tribunal rejected these as too severe and this Appellate Tribunal agrees with that conclusion.

Obviously the cup thing was not severe enough or they would have given it at the time.
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you assume this I however assume they were told to use a transfer embargo instead as that would not affect the SFA coffers with a club with large support not being in their premier cup competition.

It does not state as you have said that cup ban was not severe enough.
 
McMav said:
you assume this I however assume they were told to use a transfer embargo instead as that would not affect the SFA coffers with a club with large support not being in their premier cup competition.

It does not state as you have said that cup ban was not severe enough.
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If it was severe enough they would have given out the ban, does that not stand to reason?
 
GeneralD said:
Expulsion was too severe for the paye issue, it does not mean they can't be expelled for taking it to court. It's a different sanction for a different issue.
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No.

Unless the SFA open another case. This case has been referred back to the appeal tribunal. Not the original tribunal so no new evidence can be included. The only thing that is different is that the registration embargo is off the table.
 
steve1873 said:
No as that could potentially hurt the SFA financially due to sponsorship and televsision issues. The embargo did no such thing.
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Thats not the reason, Spartans were kicked out the cup for not having a signature on a document (they got a fine too), so there is no way they can give that same punishment to rangers for not paying tax all season.
 
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