The rise of AMD

A lot more faff for not a lot more payoff imo
Dunno about you, but I'm not mad keen on having multiple kilograms of weight hanging off two 1.6mm thick fibreglass boards. The weight saving, the noise reduction and the thermal improvements allowing higher and more sustained boost algorithms easily outweighs the 5 minutes of "faff" of slapping some rubber hose on some barbs between a couple of radiators and my motherboard assembly.

Any water loop that moves past the function and practicality of EPDM hose and barbs is a project of aesthetics and craftmanship. And that is absolutely not a "faff", that is a joy.
 
...And that is absolutely not a "faff", that is a joy.

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with every word of that....it DOES have it's moments. I mean, you've read my thread and the moments of anguish, despair and tragedy, right?! ;)

I think, ultimately, it depends what your motivations are. It's entirely possible to run a very standard air-cooled setup...and I'm doing that at the moment and - having been watercooled for the better part of the last two decades - I have to admit, it's a lot less bad than it was in my head. But I'm not pushing things to their limits or demanding unreasonable performance/silence etc currently. If you want the easy life when it comes to maintenance or not to add unnecessary expense to a build - or a reduced potential for disaster - it's hard to argue against air cooling.
So I'm going to stay on air? No, I don't think so - although the effects of laziness cannot be undersold here! When life calms down a little, stops getting in the way so much and I have the time and headspace to work out quite what I want to do, I'll be back on the road to "unnecessary"-ville because I feel the need to push the boundaries of what I can do*. "Because I can" has long been an accepted reasoning....and I think there's a good slice of "Because I NEED to" behind most of those that reason that way.

*So far that's included soft tubing, hard tubing, milling, 3D design, PCB design, crimping, soldering, lathing, glass work, polishing, metal work and probably far more that I can recall currently. You either enjoy that or you don't....and I'm not about to have any sort of go at anyone that finds an off-the-shelf PC is just fine for them. Well, at least not if they're honest about it! :D
 
A lot more faff for not a lot more payoff imo

Oh come on man. That's nuts. Every single water cooled rig I have ever had has had the fans jammed at 7v. As thus it is inaudible when not wearing headphones which is a big deal for me. Also I have never had a GPU die under water. I had my Titan XP for years (I literally got bored of it and bought a 2070 ffs) overclocked to 2100mhz and it is still going strong today after Cenedd used and abused it and now his kid IIRC. No issues with flimsy poorly made fans making a racket and or dying and not being able to find replacements and so on.

Air cooled GPUs are a lot better than they used to be, but they are still a pain.

I used to be the most anti water cooling person in the world. I thought it was pointless and stupid. And then I got a Titan XP and god it drove me nuts on air.

What *does* make me laugh though is when someone spends a ton on water cooling and only cools the CPU. Which doesn't even particularly need it given they eat half the power of a GPU these days.
 
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