You can't lie about being in shape, how long would you lie about being a high value man? Women will see through that soon enough.
The Rise of Lonely Single Straight Men
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You can't lie about being in shape, how long would you lie about being a high value man? Women will see through that soon enough.
Soldato
Someone that would buy them a drink in a nightclub...
Well it's all about attention, lots of guys behind the look are interesting, loyal, funny etc.
The problem is with dating apps these guys don't even get the attention to even show their personality. Back in the day you could be a quirky guy but you could get their attention, it's so much more difficult these days to get the attention of a woman.
Soldato
It's more like the women rated 4 think they deserve a guy rated 10.
There is also the 20-80 rule. Women are only interacting with 20% of the men. Those men have an abundance of women, so are more likely to have certain emotional traits that they dont need to be in a relationship, while all these women are fighting over him. Also the whole "I can change him" mind set some women have. In reality they can't because why should that 20% of men settle?
Meanwhile the other 80% hardly get any interactions from women, and see them moaning about these immature party guys.
But I think the deeper society problem is how relationships are viewed in western society. Back in the day a marriage was a transaction. If you got along it was a bonus. If you liked and loved each other that was a double and triple bonus.
Nowadays for western white men and women its all about love/lust. It's a less common situation were 2 friends get together. Women for some reason in our culture actually divert away from male friends, as though they can't be friends AND lovers.
This is why men need to find hobbies, socialise with other men.
Men don't get their social value from women. They get it from other men.
There is also the 20-80 rule. Women are only interacting with 20% of the men. Those men have an abundance of women, so are more likely to have certain emotional traits that they dont need to be in a relationship, while all these women are fighting over him. Also the whole "I can change him" mind set some women have. In reality they can't because why should that 20% of men settle?
Meanwhile the other 80% hardly get any interactions from women, and see them moaning about these immature party guys.
But I think the deeper society problem is how relationships are viewed in western society. Back in the day a marriage was a transaction. If you got along it was a bonus. If you liked and loved each other that was a double and triple bonus.
Nowadays for western white men and women its all about love/lust. It's a less common situation were 2 friends get together. Women for some reason in our culture actually divert away from male friends, as though they can't be friends AND lovers.
This is why men need to find hobbies, socialise with other men.
Men don't get their social value from women. They get it from other men.
Soldato
That is a good life.
This I have to disagree with, in today's world women don't accidentally get pregnant. With over 20 forms of birth control for women they choose to have a child, if they choose to have unprotected sex with a guy then its obvious what's going to happen. If the condom breaks, then they can take the morning after pill instead of waiting it out to see what happens. Men have no control over the birth once the sperm leaves their body and enters a women. She can choose to keep it or not.
You are 100% right here. Being ethnic myself, if I was white then I would probably have an easier time attracting women but considering I have always dated outside my race. I am not complaining about my results as I have a bigger diversity of dating women compare to my caucasian friends, with a nice understanding of other cultures. But I have noticed caucasian women are more open to date outside their race now compared to when I started dating 20 years ago.
There is one thing my ex said to me last year when we were together.
"If you are a white male and you having problems attracting women, then the problem is YOU and not women" and she's right! As white men are still the most preferred people to date above any other race.
rather, online strategies are different to real life face to face encounter ... so the problem may just be your white males adaption to those strategies,
same deal as with businesses concluding post-covid that business can't be conducted effectively behind a zoom camera (in addition to their software being compromised)
Caporegime
@flibbage0 and @malachi I've found, and don't know how accurate it is, that Asian and black women seemed to have more of a problem dating white men than white women with Asian or black men. Granted the last Asian women I dated was threatened with murder or being sent back to Bangladesh by her family for dating a white non-muslim so...you know, maybe they have their reasons!
Caporegime
I wouldn't know the last time I was single was year 8 and my partner and I have been together for the past 13 years.
A little input from myself would also add that men generally work long unsociable hours to women in male dominated industries maybe do not get the opportunity to meet women and couple up?
Add to that the total lack of social interaction that is beginning to happen it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
A little input from myself would also add that men generally work long unsociable hours to women in male dominated industries maybe do not get the opportunity to meet women and couple up?
Add to that the total lack of social interaction that is beginning to happen it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
I can speak from the black women side, yes they do have a problem dating white men. They like to stick to their own......BUT....black women are the least preferred women to date by all races so they really dont have a choice but to only date their own, even if they could date out, they cant as its difficult for them.
Caporegime
Hmm...see I can't say its an issue from my side! A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman, black, brown, white or that green chick from the first star trek refresh!
then maybe they shouldn't have so high standards your average man is more likely to stay loyal than some guy who can bang a different woman every week.
Soldato
I feel for my friends and my brother, who are internet dating. The rise of Tinder and Bumble has essentially made people disposable as you're just one card of 1000s available at the end a fingertip.
I wonder if anyone truly puts effort into the initial date, knowing the stakes are low because **** it, I can just swipe away the next 100 cards if this doesn't go well.
Society it seems is changing where there's less desire and expectation to be in a relationship, and that's fine as long as people don't moan that they can't find their needle in a haystack, when they created the situation with unrealistic expectations.
I wonder if anyone truly puts effort into the initial date, knowing the stakes are low because **** it, I can just swipe away the next 100 cards if this doesn't go well.
Society it seems is changing where there's less desire and expectation to be in a relationship, and that's fine as long as people don't moan that they can't find their needle in a haystack, when they created the situation with unrealistic expectations.
What? Most people in here blame their woes on high graphics card prices
I agree until the end,
Chasing people who require that level of superficial is a no win scenario.
Theyre looks will fade, their personality is likely non existent / shallow.
I'd rather be single than chasing anyone to that level.
If I became single now? I have so many personal hobbies and aims to do more if stay single. I went for a week on my own kayaking in Norway last week. Best adventure of my life. You don't need a partner/spouse to be happy!
probably the same women who claim they can't find a man
Yeah, the trick is to make them feel like you’re different and it works most of the time, they soon realise once the taxi pulls up and they’re being ushered out the door.
