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The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.
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Soldato
SOTTR is a very meh game for RT but this difference is crazy
Holy crap, 4090 twice as fast as the 7900XTX in many scenes, Crazy stuff.
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Man of Honour
AMD are at least 2 generations behind in ray tracing efficiency, so that's to be expected, especially from a GPU as powerful as a 4090 which can essentially path trace at over 60fps without frame gen and only 1440p upscaling enabled.
It's a fad/gimmick though!!!!
Curious to see if phones will make use of ray tracing outside of gaming.
Yup all chipset manufacturers have had hardware ray tracing since last year. There have been a few mobile games shown to be using ray tracing.
Man of Honour
Yes last year Samsung introduced RT to the Galaxy S23 launch in collaboration with Epic Games and other partners:
news.samsung.com
But because Apple has now invented it, expect to see developers actually release games and stuff with it.
[Interview] Realistic Graphics in Real-Time: Samsung Experts Explain Ray Tracing for the Galaxy S23 Series
As the popularity of smartphones has increased, so too has the popularity of mobile games in the mainstream gaming market. Today, more and more consumers want
But because Apple has now invented it, expect to see developers actually release games and stuff with it.
Soldato
Don't forget Apples self given title of stunning and brave.
Man of Honour
Must have taken lots of courage!
Soldato
I bet Apple HQ has a special room the employees go to called the "Smelling Empowerment Emporium™"... a sealed room with a gas mask and sphincter attachment so they can huff in their own farts while reciting a mantra carved into the wall "So stunning, So brave, So courageous".
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Man of Honour
Spiderman 2 on PC should be rather good then, the PS5 version (exclusive for now...) has RT enabled and there is no mode where RT can be turned off.
www.eurogamer.net
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
- Best hope AMD have something in the works to improve RT performance through drivers!
Spider-Man 2 includes ray tracing no matter your graphical setting
No matter which graphical performance setting Spider-Man 2 players decided to opt for, ray tracing will be included.
www.eurogamer.net
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
- Best hope AMD have something in the works to improve RT performance through drivers!
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If it runs on the PS5 in performance mode I wouldn't be expecting much from it. Isn't that essentially what used to be called gimped or lite RT in AMD sponsored games?Spiderman 2 on PC should be rather good then, the PS5 version (exclusive for now...) has RT enabled and there is no mode where RT can be turned off.
Spider-Man 2 includes ray tracing no matter your graphical setting
No matter which graphical performance setting Spider-Man 2 players decided to opt for, ray tracing will be included.
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
Man of Honour
Probably heavily use DRS/VRS on PS5 though to make RT run in performance mode, so naturally you'd expect superior image clarity on PC either way.
Spiderman 2 on PC should be rather good then, the PS5 version (exclusive for now...) has RT enabled and there is no mode where RT can be turned off.
Spider-Man 2 includes ray tracing no matter your graphical setting
No matter which graphical performance setting Spider-Man 2 players decided to opt for, ray tracing will be included.
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
Only a matter of time until RT will be forced on all the time in all games
Great news though as evidenced and documented so many times before especially by 4a enhanced when they redid metro, to get the very best from RT from not just an IQ pov but also performance pov, you have to change up your workflow and be focussed on RT only rather than trying to support both raster and then tacking on RT.
Spiderman was very good for its RT usage, yes it was "lite" mode but it was used well where it mattered i.e. reflections but of course some things had to be held back in terms of draw distance, resolution. I suspect much the same will happen here and then the PC version when it inevitably arrives will get the increased resolution, extra RT effects and so on.
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Spiderman 2 on PC should be rather good then, the PS5 version (exclusive for now...) has RT enabled and there is no mode where RT can be turned off.
Spider-Man 2 includes ray tracing no matter your graphical setting
No matter which graphical performance setting Spider-Man 2 players decided to opt for, ray tracing will be included.
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
Yea AMD need to improve there RT for a game that runs exclusively on there hardware. Makes sense to me. Much like tesselation AMD will improve there RT when it's mainstream and matters more. In the main most RT games run ok on AMD hardware. Cyberpunk is the main outlier at high levels of RT but that games become a Nvidia showcase.
At 1440p the 7900xt i have is overall 15% slower in RT compared to the competing 4070ti, so it's slower but when RT levels are kept to sensible level's like in Spiderman remastered the 7900xt is slightly ahead of the 4070ti at 1440p and 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/34.html
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The really important thing is surely that if RT cannot be turned off, then this game cannot be a half-half game with raster lighting and RT lighting neither of which get the full attention they need.Spiderman 2 on PC should be rather good then, the PS5 version (exclusive for now...) has RT enabled and there is no mode where RT can be turned off.
Spider-Man 2 includes ray tracing no matter your graphical setting
No matter which graphical performance setting Spider-Man 2 players decided to opt for, ray tracing will be included.
Now where are the "RT is just a gimmick" crowd
As someone who doesn't sit in a cave with a HDR OLED set to max 1200 NIT, I do always worry about realistic lighting. I play games for fun, a realistic 95% black screen doesn't appeal to me!
Man of Honour
That's just RT reflections and maybe shadows though, there is much more to RT to drastically improve a game's lighting system, like RTGI, ok Cyberpunk isn't a great example of that because they did the baked lighting system so well, but look at other games like Witcher Next Gen, the RTGI vs screen space GI in that is essentially night and day. Of course a huge fps penalty for the most part, but the visual difference is massive.
RT reflections and shadows are arguably the easiest things to apply RT to without having a massive fps cost applied to them. YOu can try it in Cyberpunk, max out RT and look at the fps, then turn off RT reflections and shadows and note the fps difference.
I did a quick test just now actualy and can confirm that RT reflections, RT shadows and RT sun shadows makes zero difference to framerates as they are effectively low complexity and low GPU load effects,, it's the RT lighting (RTGI) that has the massive impact.
Ultra + Psycho RT Lighting + Psycho SSR // RT Shadows + RT Sun shadows + RT Reflections = ON:
Ultra + Psycho RT Lighting + Psycho SSR // RT Shadows + RT Sun shadows + RT Reflections = OFF:
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