Not saying it's awful. Saying its a compromise. RT requires currently requires expensive hardware, and I have no quibble with geforce offering a comparable experience - but I bet if you wanted to look you could find where the compromises are, same as Netflix/uhd.
It's not simply £18 per month. You need to have a pc to run it, which isn't free. You need quality Internet, as you said. The console will offer actual gameplay for less. The gpu will offer the top level for more. It's another compromise, which until relatively recently seemed to be unacceptable. This is probably where a lot of the pushback is from, taking the ability to customise your machine and gaming experience and locking it in to a subscription, at the end of which you own nothing.
The cost element is different for everyone, some will buy the best they can afford, some will look at value, and sadly some will buy beyond what they can afford. I'm not against geforce now, I'm not for it either. The point for me is that hardware is being priced to such a degree that this is necessary, the buliding of machines is becoming more and more prohibitive, and on a forum where this is kinda the reason for it's existence it feels like more of a nail in the coffin for that side of the hobby. Just lock people into a subscription and jack the prices before each shareholder meeting. If it works, then fine, we only have ourselves to blame. What happens if steam decide to start charging an "access fee"? We don't own any games on steam, either.
How do mods work on geforce now by the way? Can people still mod games? (No sarcasm, haven't looked yet)
My point wasn't really aimed at you but at others who stated about "not lowering their standards"
Well yeah of course there are compromises, as is with anything in life, the main compromises with the geforce now ultimate is:
- time limit, 8 hours a day, personally not a problem for me as no way I'm playing 8 hours a day on any game, regardless of local or cloud streaming
- it's reliant on good internet
- your library is limited, as in only games that are on geforce now can be used so no hogwarts, rdr 2 for example, although given microsoft have partnered with nvidia here, this will probably drastically improve especially if you have gamepass ultimate (which I do)
- nvidia decide which games can be streamed in hdr, not all can be even if the game supports it
- if nvidia are doing maintenance, no access to said games
Who doesn't have a device where you can access geforce now? One of the pros for this is it provides people who use laptops or macs but want to game, well now they can get a "similar" experience as if they were on a powerful local gaming rig, you can even play on your smartphone if you really wanted.....
As said, based on having a decent gaming pc and having access to this and based purely on cp 2077 path tracing, one provides a considerably superior experience in terms of visual fidelity, latency and performance, oh and did I mention, no electricity use thus no fans spinning at all.
People can read here from various types of users to see that the ultimate package is rated pretty highly:
www.reddit.com
It's absolutely pointless people taking their opinion on the geforce free and even premium tier then applying it to the ultimate tier as they are not the same, not to mention, even sillier to be basing it on other providers cloud game streaming given geforce now ultimate as evidenced is on another level compared to them.
Essentially, it's another "option" for consumers, don't like it and want to experience top tier gaming performance especially for path tracing? Well then be prepared to pay ££££ and watch as those prices fall of a cliff come the next gen gpu release.
I can understand the concern of raising prices but lets be realistic here, it's just silly to be saying "£700 a month", given, netflix, amazon etc. have all reported a significant amount of cancellations due to cost of living and the increased prices on their end..... At worst, if more and more go this way and nvidia invest more money into it, we may see prices go up to something similar to internet provider prices and this is where if you feel so strongly about, you simply vote with your wallet but alas as shown on this forum, people whinge all the time then they go and reward/pay Jenson and Lisa
As for mods, this is another con, however, if the game is on steam and through the mod workshop, I believe this is possible.
