Geforce now might be the play for me , someone not into single player (mostly online) but if something single player did release and really interested me was at level of cyber punk ( current card just tanked and not getting the best experience) would get 1 month just to complete the game
And that's exactly what makes this a great alternative. Sure it's not as good as having your own 4080/4090 locally but for £18 and if you're only going to really make use of it for a month or 2 or even 3 for a game or 2, it's nothing to turn up your nose at given the saving you're making, worst case, you get it for £18 and turns out it's **** in your experience, you've lost £18 lol.... How much do you spend on a night out drinking, eating out and so on? I can guarantee you it will be more than £18 lol.
Sadly what tna has said is true, when nvidia are involved in something, people only see red. Life is too short to get so caught up in morals/principles, these companies don't give a **** about you no matter how much they make out like they do so you simply buy what is best for your needs and budget at said time. As it is, amd have zero products to entice me to go back to them and nvidia prices for an "upgrade" are silly and not justifiable with what is currently on offer to really get the most from it.
Its not a downgrade if your 3080 was bust.....or did you forget that part? put yourself in the position of someone with £500-£600 budget and no GPU and make a decision? This off-topic started with your "this is why you don't upgrade from ampere to RDNA3" post while also championing a geforce subscription to run it on your 3080......
I agree though buying expensive hardware just for RT/PT just isn't worth it most people.
Not enough games do a good job and if anything the comparison videos of Raster/RT/PT/RR over the last few days has highlighted that at the moment everything has a compromise of some sort. As we move forward this will change and RT/PT/RR and other AI techniques will improve but that takes time and many games are already in development.
Best to wait for the developers and hardware to catch up before throwing money around for a handful of games. Or if you have money to burn get the 4090, no issues with that.
I never mentioned comparisons with FSR so what evidence would I need to produce? or are you trying to convince yourself of something?
I played Starfield for 20 minutes and found the constant loading/transition between inside and outside very annoying.
I don't need geforce ultimate , I can adjust the settings to suit like most people do.
I don't have a vega 64, sold it years ago. As usual though blinded by the info in the sig
Anyway focus on the tech and future improvements.
Emm it is is a downgrade because I would be replacing it with a lesser experience i.e. I've gone from a better experience to a product providing a worse experience.... If someone was really stuck and couldn't afford a top end current gpu then the best thing to do would be go to the second hand market and get yourself a cheap second hand top end ampere gpu or if you are absolutely never going to use ray tracing or/and try not to use upscaling at all and instead reduce graphical settings, then yes, rdna 3 is the better choice.
The pont on upscaling was that "every" gpu is needing this in order to do 4k or/and high refresh rate gaming at high res. except maybe a 4090 thus it is an extremely important "feature" thus by the suggestion of moving to amd/7800xt, not only am I going to get similar or worse performance depending on raster/RT but I would also be getting worse IQ because FSR is nowhere near DLSS now especially when having to use lower presets of upscaling on weaker/older hardware, which as shown by countless recent games, is becoming more common unless again, you are happy to sacrifice graphical settings.
Why not give a try for £18? As long as you have got great internet, at the very least, it gives you an insight and chance to experience some of the technology for yourself.