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The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

What is the reason for using the 2nd bios ? I just see that switch as a quick way to make it use a bit less power, something they might flick over in the shop for customers quickly instead of altering profiles.

920 950 seems low volts to me. Maybe lower power limit to -40 then back up. Lower the target temp to 66 possibly helps depending if its 20c over that elsewhere or not
 
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AMDMatt said:
Things usually run better with blackbox code off.
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Witcher 3, Windows 10, AMD GPU drivers on Windows, BIOS etc. are all blackboxes to me and probably mostly to you too. I'd love to have all those as whiteboxes to me, and I agree 100%: they'd also run better and I wouldn't have crashes on XCOM 2 WotC as I would have fixed it myself....

The situation is unfortunate at the moment and bad for the end user.

Edit: I'm a dumbass. I just realised what you were hinting: GPUOpen!!! Like TressFX! Yeah, we love that stuff! I wish all games used GPUOpen rather than Gameworks. We need more open tools for everyone. But I do wish TressFX and othe FX libraries supported OpenGL or Vulkan to make them crossplatform.
 
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nlos said:
Edit: I'm a dumbass. I just realised what you were hinting: GPUOpen!!! Like TressFX! Yeah, we love that stuff! I wish all games used GPUOpen rather than Gameworks. We need more open tools for everyone. But I do wish TressFX and othe FX libraries supported OpenGL or Vulkan to make them crossplatform.
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LOL yeah the black box of proprietary BS shoved down our collective throats by some companies ;)
 
Getting mostly between 63 and 75 FPS in The Evil Within 2 with everything maxed (apart from motion blur which is disabled), FOV at 90, film grain turned to 3 quarters at 3440x1440 with my 64 LC for anyone that may be interested. 1 or 2 occasional dips into the 50's.
 
Update/comments on my install:

0. Can others with the AIO comment on how loud it is? I popped it in today to replace the AC one for a quiet life and to my horror it is less quite than the AC, the fan buzzes and the pump grinds/whines, louder than the AC at idle desktop and a more annoying noise under load. :( This can't surely be right?

1. CF/mGPU in 17.10.1 seems very, very broken, I see around 8100 in Timespy versus @11200 with 17.9.3 WHQL. Anyone else seeing this? Also no HBCC option available in mGPU (yet?) in 17.9.3 or 17.10.1?

2. Eiswolf loop expanded, Eisbaer and reservoir all installed (fairly neatly IMO), seems to perform better than the Kraken X62 for the CPU with lower speed/quieter fans as well and the GPU temperature did drop a bit too.

3. I also installed a fan cable to the card under the Eiswolf so the GPU can now control it, if I was doing it again (hello Alphacool) it actually needs a notch/hole in the alu block where the GPU fan cable is it only just squeezes in but bends the PCB, I put a plastic sheet between the pins and block to make sure it didn't short - too much hassle to pull it apart again and risk all the thermal pads falling out/getting damaged. Likewise the BIOS switch is now inaccessible as are the LED switches should you wish to disable the GPU tach or connect some external LED to the LED header - doh!

Alphacool should include a fan cable in the pack and some more cut outs to fix the above plus better instructions on positioning of the backplate as it is critical. pre-cut pads would be fantastic too as that's the hardest and most time consuming thing but if they made a tool at the factory it would be easy for them to do.

Not meant to be a review but heading that way! <G>).

4. My 1300W SF PSU's fan is coming on very loudly at ~800W (i.e. full load on CPU + the two cards) which is also annoying, so I may have to see if I can find a quieter one. :(

At below around 650W the fan is off, so another option when gaming is the frame limiter, with good mGPU support the power draw might be less. It should really ramp up more slowly and based on the internal temperature but seems to bang on suddenly at a high speed (but not full power).

And people say houses/cars/bikes are money pits. ;)
 
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Shadow Of War Vega 64 in game benchmark. (video is converting to higher quality)
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I got something similar on my Air 64 w/LC bios on a custom loop, although your card peaks much higher than mine. I'm only running p7 at 1722. Ultra settings with Ultra texture pack.

Also, you posted your mobo bios is 1702 but that should be 1701 unless you have an unreleased bios.

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I'd also like to follow up on a post I made a few days ago(see below) to correct a claim I made regarding the new drivers(17.10.1). After several days of testing I believe the issue is actually related to the bios version of my mobo. I run a Ryzen 1800x on the Crosshair VI Hero and we've had several bios revisions drop in the past month. I updated to the newest one and noticed I was getting different benchmark scores with the same settings and driver version(17.9.3) than with the previous bios. I decided to clean then reinstall 17.10.1 and to my surprise, I was no longer getting dips. I switched back and forth between drivers and mobo bios revisions to run more tests and sure enough my results were repeatable.

I'm currently running 17.10.1 with my mobo's newest bios. While the bios produces lower benchmark scores than the previous bios revisions that didn't show the dips while using 17.9.3, I no longer experience the issue with the new driver.

I also overclocked my CPU to 4ghz and RAM to 3466. Here's a Superposition bench with p7 at 1722, HBM 1100, +50% power limit.

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kundi said:
So I posted this in another forum but I can't recommend 17.10.1 at this point. It introduces frame dips(stutter) which are noticeable while gaming. They are also reflected in synthetic benches, compare the difference in minimum FPS in the images I'm posting below(this was one of my better runs with 17.10.1, some runs dipped as low as 33 or 34). I cleaned and reinstalled numerous times to confirm. I also ran the Shadow of War in-game benchmark and while the FPS was higher overall, there was stutter there as well.

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17.10.1
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I've gone ahead and opted in to the Fall Creator's update which releases later this month so I'll be testing that some more over the next day. I've noticed some improvements using 17.9.3 in Firestrike/Timespy graphics scores there but would like to run some more benches.
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Nemesis.ie said:
Update/comments on my install:

0. Can others with the AIO comment on how loud it is? I popped it in today to replace the AC one for a quiet life and to my horror it is less quite than the AC, the fan buzzes and the pump grinds/whines, louder than the AC at idle desktop and a more annoying noise under load. :( This can't surely be right?

1. CF/mGPU in 17.10.1 seems very, very broken, I see around 8100 in Timespy versus @11200 with 17.9.3 WHQL. Anyone else seeing this? Also no HBCC option available in mGPU (yet?) in 17.9.3 or 17.10.1?

2. Eiswolf loop expanded, Eisbaer and reservoir all installed (fairly neatly IMO), seems to perform better than the Kraken X62 for the CPU with lower speed/quieter fans as well and the GPU temperature did drop a bit too.

3. I also installed a fan cable to the card under the Eiswolf so the GPU can now control it, if I was doing it again (hello Alphacool) it actually needs a notch/hole in the alu block where the GPU fan cable is it only just squeezes in but bends the PCB, I put a plastic sheet between the pins and block to make sure it didn't short - too much hassle to pull it apart again and risk all the thermal pads falling out/getting damaged. Likewise the BIOS switch is now inaccessible as are the LED switches should you wish to disable the GPU tach or connect some external LED to the LED header - doh!

Alphacool should include a fan cable in the pack and some more cut outs to fix the above plus better instructions on positioning of the backplate as it is critical. pre-cut pads would be fantastic too as that's the hardest and most time consuming thing but if they made a tool at the factory it would be easy for them to do.

Not meant to be a review but heading that way! <G>).

4. My 1300W SF PSU's fan is coming on very loudly at ~800W (i.e. full load on CPU + the two cards) which is also annoying, so I may have to see if I can find a quieter one. :(

At below around 650W the fan is off, so another option when gaming is the frame limiter, with good mGPU support the power draw might be less. It should really ramp up more slowly and based on the internal temperature but seems to bang on suddenly at a high speed (but not full power).

And people say houses/cars/bikes are money pits. ;)
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Can't say I notice the noise from my AOI at idle nor have I heard any noise from the pump. It's definitely louder than my Fury X was at full load but then I have the fan RPM cranked up from the default setting of 2400 RPM to 2850 RPM as I've found the temperatures get close to the max of 70 at the default setting. Can't say it bothers me at all though...
 
kundi said:
I got something similar on my Air 64 w/LC bios on a custom loop, although your card peaks much higher than mine. I'm only running p7 at 1722. Ultra settings with Ultra texture pack.

Also, you posted your mobo bios is 1702 but that should be 1701 unless you have an unreleased bios.

Vsq4Rgem.png.jpg

I'd also like to follow up on a post I made a few days ago(see below) to correct a claim I made regarding the new drivers(17.10.1). After several days of testing I believe the issue is actually related to the bios version of my mobo. I run a Ryzen 1800x on the Crosshair VI Hero and we've had several bios revisions drop in the past month. I updated to the newest one and noticed I was getting different benchmark scores with the same settings and driver version(17.9.3) than with the previous bios. I decided to clean then reinstall 17.10.1 and to my surprise, I was no longer getting dips. I switched back and forth between drivers and mobo bios revisions to run more tests and sure enough my results were repeatable.

I'm currently running 17.10.1 with my mobo's newest bios. While the bios produces lower benchmark scores than the previous bios revisions that didn't show the dips while using 17.9.3, I no longer experience the issue with the new driver.

I also overclocked my CPU to 4ghz and RAM to 3466. Here's a Superposition bench with p7 at 1722, HBM 1100, +50% power limit.

2dMIZ2el.png.jpg
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Thanks corrected the error, using 1701.

You are using the wrong settings for the OcuK Unigine Superposition bench thread btw. :)
 
AMDMatt said:
Thanks corrected the error, using 1701.

You are using the wrong settings for the OcuK Unigine Superposition bench thread btw. :)
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Yeah. I didn't do it for here. I just use that test to compare for myself since all my old tests use that setting and it's easy to look up other scores in their database. My previous best score was 7079.
 
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