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The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

Dave2150 said:
Damn, I get the sense that Loadsamoney and Gerard spend day and night in this thread just hoping for news of pump whine, coil whine, exploding GPU's, or anything negative, just so they post and troll about it.

Can't you guys stick to the Vega review thread and post there how bad/faulty/low quality/rubbish etc you think Vega is, and leave the owners thread, for.....owners?
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How is commenting on yet another liquid cooled card failing "trolling"? Its this card and the LE that are hard ones to get yet there seems to be a recurring theme with black screens and crashes in the case of the AIO version. That's around 8 or so of the aio cards on this forum alone that have had the same issue. And most likely that's not going to show in the review thread as all the reviews have been done already.

Think you might want to get a clue about what "trolling" is, as you're way off base in what you consider to be trolling.
 
carlpls said:
I tested my card once more with The Witcher 3, without any framecaps and that crashes my card rather soon as well. I then hooked up a second PSU (700W) to my graphics card, same result.

I just contacted Scan to get a replacement card.. shame :/
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Can you try something and let me know if it makes a difference for you? In my case it seems to have helped a lot.

Go in Wattman and activate the option to manual set the memory voltage. You'll see that by default it is set to 950 (whatever that value really means). Set it to 1050 instead, which is the default value found for RX Vega 64 Air. Try again now and see what happens.

I'm still testing on my end but it seems to have definitely help with my black screen crashes. Now the bad news is that it means the card doesn't work at its default factory settings, which is not good :o
 
Chewie said:
Can you try something and let me know if it makes a difference for you? In my case it seems to have helped a lot.

Go in Wattman and activate the option to manual set the memory voltage. You'll see that by default it is set to 950 (whatever that value really means). Set it to 1050 instead, which is the default value found for RX Vega 64 Air. Try again now and see what happens.

I'm still testing on my end but it seems to have definitely help with my black screen crashes. Now the bad news is that it means the card doesn't work at its default factory settings, which is not good :o
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Would be odd if it was something as simple as a memory voltage error, possible that a wrong value was entered in a bios file and it slipped through?
 
Chewie said:
Can you try something and let me know if it makes a difference for you? In my case it seems to have helped a lot.

Go in Wattman and activate the option to manual set the memory voltage. You'll see that by default it is set to 950 (whatever that value really means). Set it to 1050 instead, which is the default value found for RX Vega 64 Air. Try again now and see what happens.

I'm still testing on my end but it seems to have definitely help with my black screen crashes. Now the bad news is that it means the card doesn't work at its default factory settings, which is not good :o
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Mmm, will give that a shot, thanks!
 
I don't think it's just a bios/voltage error as all Liquid Edition owners I could found confirmed to me that they had 950 as the default value and most of them are running with it without problems.

It seems more to me as a quality control failure where basically some memory chips picked for the Liquid Edition are not stable "enough" with the given factory default settings.
 
Gerard said:
How is commenting on yet another liquid cooled card failing "trolling"? Its this card and the LE that are hard ones to get yet there seems to be a recurring theme with black screens and crashes in the case of the AIO version. That's around 8 or so of the aio cards on this forum alone that have had the same issue. And most likely that's not going to show in the review thread as all the reviews have been done already.

Think you might want to get a clue about what "trolling" is, as you're way off base in what you consider to be trolling.
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You're only focusing one one point of my post. I mentioned you and Loadsamoney. Loadsamoney is trolling, you on the other hand seem to spend an extraordinary amount of time in this threat, focusing on the negative. When I have more time, I'll go through the threat and count how many times you've repeated the same point over and over, that some LE vega cards have failed. You seem determined to paint Vega in a bad light by continuously repeating this.

In fact, you've probably posted the most in this thread out of everyone, despite the fact you're not an owned. I imagine 90% of these posts are quoting anything that appears to be a problem with Vega.
 
Chewie said:
I don't think it's just a bios/voltage error as all Liquid Edition owners I could found confirmed to me that they had 950 as the default value and most of them are running with it without problems.

It seems more to me as a quality control failure where basically some memory chips picked for the Liquid Edition are not stable "enough" with the given factory default settings.
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It was on 950 for me when I set it to manual, when I set it to 1050 and applied it, it still crashed unigine heaven within 1 minute though. :(

Either way, thanks for the advice! Highly appreciated. :)
 
Dave2150 said:
You're only focusing one one point of my post. I mentioned you and Loadsamoney. Loadsamoney is trolling, you on the other hand seem to spend an extraordinary amount of time in this threat, focusing on the negative. When I have more time, I'll go through the threat and count how many times you've repeated the same point over and over, that some LE vega cards have failed. You seem determined to paint Vega in a bad light by continuously repeating this.

In fact, you've probably posted the most in this thread out of everyone, despite the fact you're not an owned. I imagine 90% of these posts are quoting anything that appears to be a problem with Vega.
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Loadsa can post what he wants. Fact of the matter is I still have a pre-order in for an aio version and seeing so many people have problems with them isn't exactly confidence inspiring. What stock there is of them is held up with back orders and right now it seems to be pot luck if you get one that actually works or not, and if you don't, back on the waiting list you go.

But how dare I point out the elephant in the room, that of a comparatively small list of owners of that card on this forum quite a few have had to return theirs. I suppose I should just ignore that and plonk my head into the sand while whistling Dixie.
 
Hey, I'm new here. I'm also the person who provided the AIO bios dump to Gupsterg on OCN for flashing on the Air 64 cards.

I'm not trying to come to that gentleman's defense but my LC 64 crashes in most games within 5 min if I set it to anything above balanced mode. On the 17.8.2 drivers it was very bad(crashing even in balanced mode), so I'm currently running the launch beta drivers. Benches seem to run fine.

I have a one month old Seasonic 1000w Prime Plantinum PSU. You can attribute these issues to people having sub par PSUs, but I can say with almost 100% certainty my PSU is not an issue. I've seen several people having similar issue as me while running what I would consider sufficient PSUs. Hopefully with enough people reporting feedback we might be able to get to the bottom of this without being forced to RMA all of our cards.

I dumped the low power bios this morning for Gupsterg at OCN so I'm currently running/testing it. Benches seem to be about the same even though the core clock throttles down 1668 every once in a while where as with the high power bios it sustains 1750.

Here are my benches for comparison, +50% power limit, stock core clock, HBM 1100:
HP bios - 8185, GS 8072 - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21764905
LP bios - 8176, GS 8062 - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21796571
 
kundi said:
Hey, I'm new here. I'm also the person who provided the AIO bios dump to Gupsterg on OCN for flashing on the Air 64 cards.

I'm not trying to come to that gentleman's defense but my LC 64 crashes in most games within 5 min if I set it to anything above balanced mode. On the 17.8.2 drivers it was very bad(crashing even in balanced mode), so I'm currently running the launch beta drivers. Benches seem to run fine.

I have a one month old Seasonic 1000w Prime Plantinum PSU. You can attribute these issues to people having sub par PSUs, but I can say with almost 100% certainty my PSU is not an issue. I've seen several people having similar issue as me while running what I would consider sufficient PSUs. Hopefully with enough people reporting feedback we might be able to get to the bottom of this without being forced to RMA all of our cards.

I dumped the low power bios this morning for Gupsterg at OCN so I'm currently running/testing it. Benches seem to be about the same even though the core clock throttles down 1668 every once in a while where as with the high power bios it sustains 1750.

Here are my benches for comparison, +50% power limit, stock core clock, HBM 1100:
HP bios - 8185, GS 8072 - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21764905
LP bios - 8176, GS 8062 - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21796571
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Can you try my "tweak" regarding the memory voltage in Wattman and let me know if it made any difference for you?

Also, is there an accurate way to find out whether our card is running with Hynix or Samsung HBM 2 chips? If so can Liquid Edition owners confirm which one they have?


@AMDMatt: any chance you could help us raise a point with AMD regarding all these AIO version issues/crashes?
 
JediFragger said:
Honestly @Gerard I'd suggest leaving it for a bit maybe? It may be on a par with the old 290/X black screen issues, which afaik the issue was never really tracked down! Or was it memory?

Either way, if you do go for it then make sure the card is easily returnable just in case...
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The grey screen thing i think they fixed in a driver but i don't recall if it ever was a 100% fix. I never had it with my 290 vapour or reference, but i do remember seeing people having it after it was meant to have been fixed.

Might just wait and see if this gets sorted out or see if amd addresses this, there's so few of these aio cards in the wild its hard to tell how widespread this is.
 
Chewie said:
Can you try my "tweak" regarding the memory voltage in Wattman and let me know if it made any difference for you?
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Sure. I'll need to jump back to the high power bios to keep things consistent and update my driver. I'm currently running the launch beta driver and I don't think it allows one to adjust memory voltage. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
kundi said:
Sure. I'll need to jump back to the high power bios to keep things consistent and update my driver. I'm currently running the launch beta driver and I don't think it allows one to adjust memory voltage. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The original beta launch drivers didn't allow any kind of GPU/memory voltage changes via Wattman that's correct (well you could modify values but it had no effect really).
 
iihavetoes said:
Yes. I've tried 17.30.1051-b6-aug7 and 17.8.2 and the PUBG update (17.8.2) performed worse than the beta launch drivers. I'll continue to test, but I was actually getting over 100fps consistently on the launch drivers, but still struggle to hold 60fps with 17.8.2
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As promised, wanted to update you on this. I've spend a good 3 hours in PUBG today, on the 17.8.1 drivers, 1440P on a 144Hz Freesync screen (Benq XL2730Z) on a Vega64 LE.

FPS was above 100 the vast majority of the time, running a mixture of settings including textures on highest, shadows on low, everything else medium. Kept that same settings as I ran on my RX580 just to see the difference, pretty much double the fps :cool:

No crashes at all. I've not crashed in one game so far, though haven't played many titles due to only getting my card on Wednesday.

Played the following so far:

Prey
PUBG
Diablo 3
Wolfenstein: Old blood
World of tanks.

I'm wondering it's worth avoiding the latest 17.8.2's and sticking to the 17.8.1 drivers?
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
We got another one :(

The failure rate on these AIOs must be astronomical.

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Have you got 2x seperate 8-Pins plugged in ?, as i have read, that if just using the one cable, that splits into 2x, it can cause problems.
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It's two separate 8-pins. On 17.8.2 I'm getting microstuttering every 2 or 3 seconds, with or without FreeSync enabled. The launch beta drivers of 17.8.1 were actually very stable for me
 
Chewie said:
Can you try something and let me know if it makes a difference for you? In my case it seems to have helped a lot.

Go in Wattman and activate the option to manual set the memory voltage. You'll see that by default it is set to 950 (whatever that value really means). Set it to 1050 instead, which is the default value found for RX Vega 64 Air. Try again now and see what happens.

I'm still testing on my end but it seems to have definitely help with my black screen crashes. Now the bad news is that it means the card doesn't work at its default factory settings, which is not good :o
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The default memory voltage is higher on air than water?
 
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