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The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

Download the Ryzen Master Software from AMD site. Check out the features to get your head on it.
Then put it in Game Mode, and see if that makes any difference.
You can then test out the Precision Boost and auto-overclock etc. and see if you get something extra.

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If your lucky like @TNA you may have a golden sample chip that can constantly run at 4.2 on a slight undervolt. This would absolutely not be bottlenecking your game.
 
GregI said:
2060 Super. I know this is first world problems but 200fps is not good enough in regards to future proofing for my scenario. My future plan is either a 1080p 240Hz panel or a 2k 165Hz one.

I average about 275fps at 1080p but it will dip to like 220 in very extreme teamfights so I want to atleast always secure 240 (or even 235 to ensure G-Sync works correctly). I can sustain over 200fps even at 2k resolution so the 2k 165Hz route is ticked off. I don't think my FCLK can go much higher than 1800 so the only logical step appears to be squeezing out this extra 200Mhz boost on the CPU to see if that can gain me the 20 or so extra fps to keep me over 240. I know that sounds silly but Overwatch just really is hungry for single core clock speed and this 200Mhz might make the difference.

I've ran Afterburner and my CPU clock speed is always 4000Mhz never more.
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You may have to adjust your game settings. In that vid the setting was epic. I'm sure lowering it will raise the fps higher. I've seen a vid with a i7 9700K and 2080 where the MAX fps did not even touch 300 at same settings. Maybe a 2080 Ti and a 9900K will do it.

Here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWLPLrdxoDc

Same thing. Dipping down to the 200 fps. I know avid players of this game use lower settings.

EDIT: Here is guide to the game to go over the 300 limit.

https://prosettings.net/best-overwatch-gpu/
 
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Think I just fried my chip. Did what you guys said and opened Ryzen Master. Chose game mode manual and set 4200 on all cores. It said something about setting manual voltage so I chose Ok and then my pc restarted. I can't left or right click anything with the mouse. I can only move the mouse and nothing else. I managed to open Ryzen Master if I was fast and core voltages seemed ok at 1.2 volts so I don't know what happened. Only thing I can think of is to reinstall Windows?
 
GregI said:
Think I just fried my chip. Did what you guys said and opened Ryzen Master. Chose game mode manual and set 4200 on all cores. It said something about setting manual voltage so I chose Ok and then my pc restarted. I can't left or right click anything with the mouse. I can only move the mouse and nothing else. I managed to open Ryzen Master if I was fast and core voltages seemed ok at 1.2 volts so I don't know what happened. Only thing I can think of is to reinstall Windows?
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When Windows boots back up, don't open or allow to open Ryzen Master, then uninstall it, then re-install it :)
 
I have like 2 or 3 seconds to input commands before my system locks the mouse inputs even without opening Ryzen Master so I don't know what to do. I've even set BIOS to load optimized defaults, same issue.
 
GregI said:
I have like 2 or 3 seconds to input commands before my system locks the mouse inputs even without opening Ryzen Master so I don't know what to do. I've even set BIOS to load optimized defaults, same issue.
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Did you fix the issue? I never use Ryzen Master. I always rely on the BIOS to make changes. Wish you luck.
 
I just ended up reinstalling Windows and that seemed to clear up the issue. I don't know if it was a bug with Ryzen Master but yeah I'm gonna do stuff in the BIOS from now on and use Master purely for reading data.

When I was doing testing with Ryzen Master before I chose manual overclocking, I was getting really bad performance when using Precision Boost Overdrive. On default when playing Overwatch, Afterburner was stating my cores/threads that they could clock to maximum 4000Mhz and I was getting my usual performance of averaging 260-270 fps with minimum drops to 230. Set PBO and my clocks would not go above 3850/3875Mhz and my performance took a massive hit where fps would dip to 210 in fights and averages went down to like 250, something that I have never ecountered before.

This might be wrong theory but Overwatch uses 4 full cores and partially 2 more but it basically can use a 6 core CPU. If my clocks are limiting around 3800 PBO vs 4000 stock without tinkering, that basically means I'm losing about 1Ghz in potential extra performance for the game right? (200Mhz x 4 and then partial say 50Mhz on core 5/6)

I'm just curious how PBO would limit clock speeds to such a random number as 3850. If it helps, all I did was go to game mode, clicked PBO and set Apply. I expected that to mean that during a bigger cpu load (in my case a team fight) that PBO would go "huh, you gonna lose frames buddy time to boost to 4.1/4.2Ghz).
 
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Never had an issue with Ryzen Master. Just stick in MHz and voltage and click apply. Done. No restart needed.

Now I have it done in bios though, no issues thus far.
 
GregI said:
I just ended up reinstalling Windows and that seemed to clear up the issue. I don't know if it was a bug with Ryzen Master but yeah I'm gonna do stuff in the BIOS from now on and use Master purely for reading data.

When I was doing testing with Ryzen Master before I chose manual overclocking, I was getting really bad performance when using Precision Boost Overdrive. On default when playing Overwatch, Afterburner was stating my cores/threads that they could clock to maximum 4000Mhz and I was getting my usual performance of averaging 260-270 fps with minimum drops to 230. Set PBO and my clocks would not go above 3850/3875Mhz and my performance took a massive hit where fps would dip to 210 in fights and averages went down to like 250, something that I have never ecountered before.

This might be wrong theory but Overwatch uses 4 full cores and partially 2 more but it basically can use a 6 core CPU. If my clocks are limiting around 3800 PBO vs 4000 stock without tinkering, that basically means I'm losing about 1Ghz in potential extra performance for the game right? (200Mhz x 4 and then partial say 50Mhz on core 5/6)

I'm just curious how PBO would limit clock speeds to such a random number as 3850. If it helps, all I did was go to game mode, clicked PBO and set Apply. I expected that to mean that during a bigger cpu load (in my case a team fight) that PBO would go "huh, you gonna lose frames buddy time to boost to 4.1/4.2Ghz).
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Others really like using Ryzen Master. Anyway, if you are sure Overwatch uses more than 4 cores, then you might be better off going all-core oc. Even just 4.1GHz will suffice and prolly just use 1.28v or something lower. When i oc my 3600 i only mess with these settings for my particular 3600 on an Asus X470 - Custom CPU Core to Auto, Core Ratio to 42, VDDCR CPU Voltage to Offset mode, CPU offset Mode sign to +, 0.33XXv (for my cpu), and LLC to 4.

Also, it might help to clone your drive to minimize downtime. I use free app Aomei. Just swap drives if Win gets corrupted.
 
Some interesting data I gathered just now with Afterburner.

When searching for a game, clock speed will hover between 3600 and 4000. I guess this is normal: https://i.imgur.com/YEr9QeH.jpg
However, when playing the game I noticed that my clock speeds are not going above 3875Mhz when playing: https://i.imgur.com/oXYeARo.jpg
This carried on till the end of the match: https://i.imgur.com/U0sFpWZ.jpg

At first I thought maybe it was because my temps were bad but I think not going over 60c is pretty ok, especially when I have the heating on. Why is my chip refusing to go above 3875 when actually playing? If I had say 4000 during gameplay I think my framerate issues would be solved.
 
GregI said:
Some interesting data I gathered just now with Afterburner.

When searching for a game, clock speed will hover between 3600 and 4000. I guess this is normal: https://i.imgur.com/YEr9QeH.jpg
However, when playing the game I noticed that my clock speeds are not going above 3875Mhz when playing: https://i.imgur.com/oXYeARo.jpg
This carried on till the end of the match: https://i.imgur.com/U0sFpWZ.jpg

At first I thought maybe it was because my temps were bad but I think not going over 60c is pretty ok, especially when I have the heating on. Why is my chip refusing to go above 3875 when actually playing? If I had say 4000 during gameplay I think my framerate issues would be solved.
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I get over 4Ghz in games, same sort of temps, usually moving around between 4.1 and 4.2Ghz in 25Mhz increments.

So no, that doesn't look right to me.

Edit: what about other games?
 
Only thing I can think of is you have PBO On, I don't. If anyone else has Overwatch and can do testing that would be greatly appreciated.
 
GregI said:
Only thing I can think of is you have PBO On, I don't. If anyone else has Overwatch and can do testing that would be greatly appreciated.
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PBO makes 0 difference in games, it gives me about 50 to 100Mhz in high stress loads but that's it.

I don't have Overwatch, what about Fortnight? i don't have it but its a free game and i can install it if you have the same clock behaviours in that we can make comparisons.

Or suggest another game?
 
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