The Sandy, Ivy and Haswell (Hazzy?) Upgrade Thread

[twistedheat]

i guess it depends where you coming from. what you upgrading from and if you just buying new.

i dont think a 8700 at £200 is that great tbh. why ? its two years old its six cores. 8 i would have said amazing 6 50 / 50. especially when you factor in dearer mobos than intel and better dearer ram to get the best out of them.

i think they are good for people on lower end ryzens but for everyone else bit too pricey for a 6 core. yeah yeah we know how much a 8700 is now but you could have had that same 8700 for 2 years ! so by the time you change your 3600 you will change the 8700 and the 8700 would have had more life. value. cheaper mobos. cheaper ram.

if they can get some budget mobos out like amd normally does they will shift. if you have to buy a £200 board why bother ? you just buy 2nd 8700 and budget board new cheaper ram and probably be most of the part faster at most things you really use your pc for. not many people use more than 6 cores. hell many dont even use 4. so mobos need to come down for the 3600 to work unless every person on older ryzen is buying them.

Well that's a bit BS don't you think?

The entire advantage of AM4 is being able to recycle or buy an old AM4 mobo. As long as you buy a board with sufficient VRM cooling and power delivery (and for the 3600/x that will pretty much include any B350 and upwards board) then you can use that. A 3600/X isn't going to perform any different on an X570, so you don't "have" to buy one. Just buy a £80 B450.

Acting like you have to pair a 3600/X with a £200 X570 just does a disservice any point you're trying to make, because it makes it look like you are disingenuously inflating the cost of a Ryzen system in order to prove your point.

 

[Minstadave]

Well that's a bit BS don't you think?

because it makes it look like you are disingenuously inflating the cost of a Ryzen system in order to prove your point.

Its DG. Its exactly what hes doing.

 

[Ðudeth]

2500k soldier here.

Its never skipped a beat, had a brief time running it clocked @4.5Ghz (about 2 months) air cooled. Had a random BSOD and rather than investigating i clocked it back (didnt really need to be running it that fast and was conscious of life span too) Now running at 4.2Ghz.

I was looking to rebuild about 2 months back as im noticing some stutter in newer games. Originally was looking at 9700k, with equivalent DDR4 board and ram (was going to be a rebuild/upgrade)
MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON LGA 1151 DDR4 Motherboard
CORE I7-9700K 3.6GHZ (COFFEE LAKE) SOCKET LGA1151 PROCESSOR - OEM
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Cooler
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit - Black
Corsair - RMx White (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Gigabyte GPU NV RTX2070 Windforce 8GB FH
Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Since seeing the AMD bombshell its flipped completely. Now doing a complete build (case and all)
Looking at the below

MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX AM4
AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (im looking to get a 3800X when released - this is a place holder essentially)
R1 Universal Dual Tower CPU Heatsink with 140mm Fan - White (maybe Noctua d15 instead?)
Fractal Design Meshify C Mini Dark TG Micro-ATX Case - Black
Team Group Dark Pro " Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black - 8 Pack approved (advised on 3600 freq ram as it is best suited for the 3800X)
1TB Crucial MX500 2.5" SSD / Solid State Drive
Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 XC Black Gaming, 6GB GDDR6, HDB Fan, Graphics Card 06G-P4-2061-KR (Now looking at 2060/70 supers)

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/bulding-a-new-pc-to-replace-existing-advice-needed-on-parts-especially-gpu.18858215/#post-32824735

 

[jay13bry]

A 2700x is an odd place holder for a few days?

 

[~>Dg<~]

just wait see benchmarks decide simples.

 

[almoststew1990]

OP just checking in to say



I'm not sure if I will go B450 with a 3700x (or even 2700/x) and 3200MHz RAM or get a X570 with a 3900x with 3600MHz RAM for probably twice the total price. I guess I'll wait until Sunday! Alongside two M2 drives (one SATA and one NVMe) so I finally lose my drive cables (death to cables!)

 

[Hedge]

I want to downsize my phantek primo into a new ryzen matx build. Looking forward to next week.

 

[jay13bry]

I want to downsize my phantek primo into a new ryzen matx build. Looking forward to next week.

I don't think there's many if any X570 matx boards though?

 

[Rofflay]

Fewer still with pci *cries*

When i have to upgrade this means bye Asus Xonar ST which is a fantastic card in mint condition and sadly you can not find any boards for it. So that adds £176 onto any new build right there from my Haswell case.


I am really unsure about that, It isnsuch a good card i am tempted to turn the whole thing into a arcade cabinet.

 

[bazman25]

so im coming from a intel 3770k setup and will be upgrading when i make up my mind i just cant make up my mind on a motherboard! just wondered what upgrade path people have chosen coming from the Sandy, haswell and ivy?

 

[RossG]

I'm going to be upgrading from a 4670k. Pretty sure I'm gonna go with a 3600 paired with a msi B450 carbon ac.

 

[bazman25]

I'm going to be upgrading from a 4670k. Pretty sure I'm gonna go with a 3600 paired with a msi B450 carbon ac.

nice i was thinking a 3770x will be used for gaming at 1440p with the motherboard at first i wanted a x570 but when i priced it up it came to £600! my budget was £450-500 but will probably go for a x470 im assuming the x470 boards need a bios update to work?

 

[UKDTweak]

I have an i5 3570k running at 4.6ghz with 16gb of ram and have ordered from OC today, the MSI B450 Tomahawk, 16gb of Vengeance LPX 3200 ram and ... a Ryzen 3700X... im hoping to see my gaming frame rates climb so i can get the best from my AOC Agon 27" 1440p 144hz screen and RTX2070. Currently playing the Division at 1080p, Ultra settings and its hammering the 4 cores constantly, as did Battlefield V.
This build needs to last as long as te i5 did, it has served me well.

 

[Nerusy]

Had 3570k running at 4.3 for 7 years now. Finally upgrading to 3700x with MSI Pro Carbon motherboard, hopefully I will see a decent boost in gaming at 1080p with the new set up (got vega 56), seeing my cpu running 100% whilst gaming often now, clearly a CPU bottleneck.

 

[TNA]

Love what AMD have done with the 3000 series, but still not sure if I need the upgrade. My 4770K still runs like a champ at 4.7GHz. Might upgrade to a 3900X some point in the near future, but if I do, it will not be because I felt like I needed to, but because I fancied something new.

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

I finally did it... I put my dear 2600K to rest. That served me well for years. *sniff*

Hope the new 9700K shiny will create many more good memories.

 

[Hybridtheory]

I have an i5 3570k running at 4.6ghz with 16gb of ram and have ordered from OC today, the MSI B450 Tomahawk, 16gb of Vengeance LPX 3200 ram and ... a Ryzen 3700X... im hoping to see my gaming frame rates climb so i can get the best from my AOC Agon 27" 1440p 144hz screen and RTX2070. Currently playing the Division at 1080p, Ultra settings and its hammering the 4 cores constantly, as did Battlefield V.
This build needs to last as long as te i5 did, it has served me well.

Could you let me know how you get on and your thoughts ? very close to what I am hovering over to buy (will be using a 1080 th0) and also into Div 2 !

 

[UKDTweak]

Could you let me know how you get on and your thoughts ? very close to what I am hovering over to buy (will be using a 1080 th0) and also into Div 2 !

The CPU was showing as due today but now its saying eta 12th... so going to be next week at the earliest before it ships, but i can update once ive got it all up and running, been ages since i did a major system build, this will be fun

 

[Swinbag]

Think I'll wait a few weeks for the dust to settle and some of these early BIOS niggles to get sorted out - but pretty certain I'll finally be replacing my trusty 2600k with a 3700x & B450 motherboard.

 

[ElliotHand]

Once my house renovations are finished I'll be treating myself to one of these and putting my 3570k to rest.

Hopefully I'll have the budget for the 3950x, I'd never expected my Ivy Bridge to last 7 years and so if the AMD lasts as long then I can't see a reason not to invest in the best rather than upgrading after 3/4 years.