The Sony A73/A7R3/A7S3/A9 Thread

Raymond Lin · 4 Apr 2018 at 00:39

Combat squirrel said:
Interesting thanks, face is fine as long as it tracks focus pretty reasonably and eye AF for stills is great.

Yeah banding will be the refresh rate/shutter on the video, its from the LED lights, you'd not get it as much on non LED at 25fps, 24 ideally as you want to move slower than the electrical frequency of the UK (PAL) which is intervals of 25/50 hrz - hence 25/50fps options in the UK - its basically so video work lines up with the electrical freqency of the host country, in the USA the electrical frequency (and thus lights) goes at 30/60hrz, hence the same fps - to stop flickering on tv/film...........its all a left over thing from before digital but still applies now, 24 is just a cinematic frame rate that old films origonally ran at (as am sure u know)

Anyways just wrote all this for the general forum to know.

I remember this when I went to Japan, did you know inside Tokyo itself is 25/50 but outside is 30/60 ? So if you are travelling, you got to remember to switch.

Anyway, in 4k it's only 25, i didn't see 24, I recall, I got to check again tomorrow, and play with my Zeiss….I am quite excited about that, a Zeiss lens!

sHo0sH · 4 Apr 2018 at 07:01

That looks pretty clean at that size "rammd"

Can't open the raw just yet as need to update Lr, buy thanks for uploading .

jonneymendoza · 4 Apr 2018 at 08:01

Combat squirrel said:
Interesting thanks, face is fine as long as it tracks focus pretty reasonably and eye AF for stills is great.

Yeah banding will be the refresh rate/shutter on the video, its from the LED lights, you'd not get it as much on non LED at 25fps, 24 ideally as you want to move slower than the electrical frequency of the UK (PAL) which is intervals of 25/50 hrz - hence 25/50fps options in the UK - its basically so video work lines up with the electrical freqency of the host country, in the USA the electrical frequency (and thus lights) goes at 30/60hrz, hence the same fps - to stop flickering on tv/film...........its all a left over thing from before digital but still applies now, 24 is just a cinematic frame rate that old films origonally ran at (as am sure u know)

Anyways just wrote all this for the general forum to know.

So what settings should we use?

Also doesnt the shutter setting have an effect as well?

Combat squirrel · 4 Apr 2018 at 14:03

Raymond Lin said:
I remember this when I went to Japan, did you know inside Tokyo itself is 25/50 but outside is 30/60 ? So if you are travelling, you got to remember to switch.

Anyway, in 4k it's only 25, i didn't see 24, I recall, I got to check again tomorrow, and play with my Zeiss….I am quite excited about that, a Zeiss lens!

Did not know that about Japan - I wonder if thats left over from the days the UK or similar maybe had a role in Tokyo while the first electrical systems were built ?

jonneymendoza said:
So what settings should we use?

Also doesnt the shutter setting have an effect as well?

As far as I know, anything 'less' than or equal to the electrical frequency, yeah sorry you need 1/25th or 1/50th shutter, or multiples of that - however LED's work slightly differently to older bulbs, I need to read up more on it

crinkleshoes · 7 Apr 2018 at 21:45

Picked one of these up today... looking forward to having a play. Just waiting for the battery to charge.

Got a good combo deal with the 24-70 f2.8 lens.

jonneymendoza · 7 Apr 2018 at 21:53

It's a cracking camera.just shot a model with it today

crinkleshoes · 7 Apr 2018 at 22:06

Looking at lenses... not sure what the recommended ones are.

I'd like the 100-400... other than that I'm not sure... found I didn't use the 70-200 much on my Canon... so I'd rather get a couple of primes.

It was a decent discount... picked the pair up for a shade over £4000 from Jessops... first time I've seen a deal like that on this camera.

Raymond Lin · 7 Apr 2018 at 22:29

crinkleshoes said:
Looking at lenses... not sure what the recommended ones are.

I'd like the 100-400... other than that I'm not sure... found I didn't use the 70-200 much on my Canon... so I'd rather get a couple of primes.

It was a decent discount... picked the pair up for a shade over £4000 from Jessops... first time I've seen a deal like that on this camera.

Sony Zeiss 35/1.4
Sony Zeiss 55/1.8
Sony Zeiss 50/1.4 (this is incredible)
Zeiss batis 25/2.0
Zeiss batis 85/1.8
Zeiss batis 18/2.8
Zeiss batis 135/2.8
Sony 85/1.8
Sony G master 85/1.4
Sony G master 100 STF

crinkleshoes · 7 Apr 2018 at 22:37

Thanks for that, I'll take a look

jonneymendoza · 8 Apr 2018 at 01:15

Dont forget Samyang primes too..

35mm f2.8(pancake lens and good decent IQ)
35mm f1.4
50mm 1.4
14mm f2.8

Richdog · 8 Apr 2018 at 15:18

Raymond Lin said:
Sony Zeiss 35/1.4
Sony Zeiss 55/1.8
Sony Zeiss 50/1.4 (this is incredible)
Zeiss batis 25/2.0
Zeiss batis 85/1.8
Zeiss batis 18/2.8
Zeiss batis 135/2.8
Sony 85/1.8
Sony G master 85/1.4
Sony G master 100 STF

You missed the 28mm f2 from that list.

I have the 28mm f2, the 55mm f1.8 and the 85mm f1.8 and though all are decent (the 28mm is a great walkaround lens) the 85mm is by far the sharpest and a phenomenal lens for the money.

jonneymendoza said:
Dont forget Samyang primes too..

35mm f2.8(pancake lens and good decent IQ)
35mm f1.4
50mm 1.4
14mm f2.8

According to professional/user reviews they have above average IQ but combined with loud, noisy and slow AF.

crinkleshoes · 9 Apr 2018 at 13:17

I'm liking my first plays with it - the AF system is very good and fast and the image detail, especially what you can pull out of shadows is very impressive.

matthewwhitton · 9 Apr 2018 at 16:14

Should I get one of these from an import site? Or where are people buying these from please?

crinkleshoes · 9 Apr 2018 at 16:39

I got mine from Jessops with a big discount that made it as cheap as an import site.

As far as I know, the deal is still available.

Brought the cost of the Camera body down to £2400 when bought with the 24-70 f2.8 lens.

matthewwhitton · 9 Apr 2018 at 16:57

Was that in store? The lens was £1600?

crinkleshoes · 9 Apr 2018 at 17:26

matthewwhitton said:
Was that in store? The lens was £1600?

I reserved online and collected... the deal is also available for delivery:

Raymond Lin · 9 Apr 2018 at 17:27

Lol what’s there deal with the 25p I wonder.

That is cheap, only £400 more than the A73.

Raymond Lin · 9 Apr 2018 at 17:33

I can’t see this deal?

https://www.jessops.com/p/sony/a7r-iii-mirrorless-camera-body-134212

matthewwhitton · 9 Apr 2018 at 17:34

Is it worth £400 more though? Do you know if it only works with that specific lens?

crinkleshoes · 9 Apr 2018 at 17:34

Raymond Lin said:
I can’t see this deal?

https://www.jessops.com/p/sony/a7r-iii-mirrorless-camera-body-134212

It only shows it when you add the two items to basket.