The Tesla Thread
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Isn't the Leaf available on a £109 a month lease or something equally silly?
I'm not saying you need a 50 grand Tesla. But there are plenty of cheap EV's that'd be ideal for somebody with a genuine passion and belief for the tech. Most people probably spend more on crap takeaways and booze a month than you could have a genuinely interesting part of car future for.
And in which world is £109 not a lot of money.
EVs are hardly my only "passion".
It's obvious where governments and tech are going.
It will make cities a much nicer place in regards with air pollution etc.
If I was to waste money on this, I would want something more like an EV drag car.
EVs are hardly my only "passion".
It's obvious where governments and tech are going.
It will make cities a much nicer place in regards with air pollution etc.
If I was to waste money on this, I would want something more like an EV drag car.
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A monthly bus ticket with metro for Birmingham is £71.50 a month!
(I have no idea where you live, just looked it up for some context)
I'm just genuinely surprised you've not wanted a piece of the EV action for yourself - there is more to EV than Tesla.
(I have no idea where you live, just looked it up for some context)
I'm just genuinely surprised you've not wanted a piece of the EV action for yourself - there is more to EV than Tesla.
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And price of metro ticket matters how?
What's not clear about I dint require transport. My transport costs fir the month are sub £20 a couple of local buses and trains.
Again nothing to do with not wanting. There's just other things which are far more worth spending money on.
Other than Chevy bolt, nothing compares to tesla.
But you be glad to know I'm adding electric to my bike.
Soldato
He doesn't own cars as he's too busy engineering anything with moving parts and describing the broadest range of solutions to world problems.
That or he's building the worlds biggest collection of armchairs....
That or he's building the worlds biggest collection of armchairs....
It could be entirely automated.
Drive to the battery swap, tell the car - which drives to the exact needed position - arm comes up and clamps on to and removes battery, returns, swaps battery and replaces battery. You then drive off with a fully charged battery.
Basically a lift with arm attachment moving the battery up and down, then a conveyor system moving a fresh battery in place and lifting it up, while the old battery gets plugged in. Or something coming from the side and sliding the battery out.
With near field communication the car and lift could communicate with each other so little human interaction would be needed.
Lots of money to set up and you'd also need a lot of space batteries (2-3x the number of cars?). But mechanically feasible even now. The biggest difficulty would be getting all manufacturers to adhere to a standard, both for battery tech and removal of batteries.
I think the lack of any sort of progress or investment in battery swapping shows how viable it is. Isn't there like 1 site in the entire world or something?
Also, standardising charging means standardising a connector, or providing adapters. Standardising battery swapping would mean a whole lot more than that.
Plus, swapping batteries is going out of fashion. You would struggle to find a laptop or a phone that has a removable battery any more.
Also, standardising charging means standardising a connector, or providing adapters. Standardising battery swapping would mean a whole lot more than that.
Plus, swapping batteries is going out of fashion. You would struggle to find a laptop or a phone that has a removable battery any more.
I'm not necessarily advocating battery swaps, just pointing out is it mechanically (not economically) feasible. 
As you say there are major issues with standardised chargers, let alone something bigger. Then even if all manufacturers adhere to a standard Apple will come along and decide its electric car will need an entirely different system...
As you say there are major issues with standardised chargers, let alone something bigger. Then even if all manufacturers adhere to a standard Apple will come along and decide its electric car will need an entirely different system...
So the biggest advocate for EVs can't even afford a car yet somehow thinks he understand the future needs of the planets drivers ?
I'm not necessarily advocating battery swaps, just pointing out is it mechanically (not economically) feasible.
As you say there are major issues with standardised chargers, let alone something bigger. Then even if all manufacturers adhere to a standard Apple will come along and decide its electric car will need an entirely different system...
Tesla seem to already be playing that card. The 120kW and 50kW Super Chargers all use a proprietary Tesla plug, don't they?
Its as if he is more interested in arguing about the technology rather than the technology itself...
Yeah Chernobyl and Fukushima have quite clean air. EV need nuclear.
What a stupid statement, how are the two related.
And I could easily afford one. But you know there's other things to spend money on than cars. You choose to spend your spare cash on cars, I spend it on other stuff.
And oh look that ignore button really worked well for you Sweeter.
I have been talking about the actual technology, other than responding to you and others who take it massively off topic.
All the Tesla patents nave been released a d any car manufacturer can use them if they wish. All they have to do is pay fir what they use. No ones taken them up on the other. But that's not unusual in standard/format wars. In the end they will converge.
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How can you say the two are unrelated - people need to buy cars to use not just buy cars cause they are cool or full of technology. The tesla owners or speculators remind me of the Apple fanboys who queue for hours to buy into a brand.
This is not a format war. That was in 1900s when ICE won over battery cars.
The core vehicle market is looking at different factors for a purchase decision. So of course they are related.
This is not a format war. That was in 1900s when ICE won over battery cars.
The core vehicle market is looking at different factors for a purchase decision. So of course they are related.
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Not really, it works just fine for fork lifts why couldn't they make it work?
Imagine this for a second, ICE cars didn't exist and there was no infrastructure for fuel. Someone comes up with some pie in the sky idea about how we're going to drill crude oil out of the ocean floor, transport it around the world, refine it and have high quality fuel available at pumps within say 20 miles of anywhere in the land which is a universal fit for any car and takes a couple of minutes.
You would think it's far more absurd than making a system which can swap heavy batteries.
You're splitting hairs, it's clearly a far smaller hurdle to overcome than the liquid dinosaur system that was already developed, through a time when we had next to no technology.
I don't care either way tbh, but it's clear you are only opposed because you work in the oil industry
I don't care either way tbh, but it's clear you are only opposed because you work in the oil industry
Caporegime
I am sure there will come to a point where you can just carry a spare, perhaps not the same size, but half size. May be an additional port in the boot where you can bolt in a 50% extra should you want to. Or you keep a full size at home so you can to a quick swap at home and off out again. Imagine you come home from work and need to drive off away for the weekend.