The Tesla Thread

Russinating said:
Yeah as above. As you can see from my dash my longest drive is 212 miles, but that won't be a "max"; that'll be from a 90% charge, down to maybe 10-20% as of course unless you have luck/impeccable timing you'll be stopping "short" of the max to recharge. I can tell you exactly what that drive started/finished on when I'm at home :).
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Is there any way to pinch a copy of your custom dashboard to import into my setup? Really like what you've put together on one screen.
 
You can indeed. Already shared it with another member so here t'is:

Code: 
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Trying to justify a model 3, does anyone know of spreadsheets / websites which would help?

Looking to compare the current Corsa with fuel costs and tax to the Tesla, as my commute is changing from a 10 minute walk to 108 miles.
 
miller745 said:
Trying to justify a model 3, does anyone know of spreadsheets / websites which would help?

Looking to compare the current Corsa with fuel costs and tax to the Tesla, as my commute is changing from a 10 minute walk to 108 miles.
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Useful calculator here:
http://d3dhemmer.com/ICE2EVcal/

Also, Zap-Map have got a tool on their website that’ll show you the difference for a specific journey which is also handy.
 
miller745 said:
Trying to justify a model 3, does anyone know of spreadsheets / websites which would help?

Looking to compare the current Corsa with fuel costs and tax to the Tesla, as my commute is changing from a 10 minute walk to 108 miles.
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At home my last 9 charges (50-90%) has cost me around £5.60. That’s approx 500-600 miles of range or around £60 in diesel (compared to my old Fiesta).
 
miller745 said:
Trying to justify a model 3, does anyone know of spreadsheets / websites which would help?

Looking to compare the current Corsa with fuel costs and tax to the Tesla, as my commute is changing from a 10 minute walk to 108 miles.
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If you are buying new then you can add a couple of MOT.

The zero VED (road tax)
You won't use brake pads or discs.
Very minimal or nonexisting service items (check brake fluid every 2 years, cabin filters every 2 years (suggested, not required)
Slightly more tyre usage.
No special windscreen fluid required.

If you can get it through a company (i.e. work) then there are good tax incentives.
 
miller745 said:
Trying to justify a model 3, does anyone know of spreadsheets / websites which would help?

Looking to compare the current Corsa with fuel costs and tax to the Tesla, as my commute is changing from a 10 minute walk to 108 miles.
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Main impact will be running (fuel) costs which is a bit more personal than a calculator could ever tell you. For example can you charge at work for free? Do you have a smart meter at home and are you able to charge overnight (driveway)? Can you utilise any other free chargers? Will you solely be reliant on Superchargers for your commute?
 
Thanks for the websites earlier !

Russinating said:
Main impact will be running (fuel) costs which is a bit more personal than a calculator could ever tell you. For example can you charge at work for free? Do you have a smart meter at home and are you able to charge overnight (driveway)? Can you utilise any other free chargers? Will you solely be reliant on Superchargers for your commute?
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Charging at work is a bit political, should be OK though.
House will have a smart meter and can charge overnight in the garage, possibly adding PV and a battery to the house as well..could go on the octopus charging tariff
Probably wont be needing any charging outside of work/home, but then is it worth leasing the car or purchasing..?
 
Daft. Long range test and the bigger batteries start at 90%. The more I see that guy the more I just realise he’s a sales gopher.

Tesla play beta tester, push batteries so as an air of caution this 90% limit has washed across all EV drivers. In terms of LFP Really they are relying on voltage to show state of charge as as LFP plateaus after 90% so it’s like to encourage 100% to help the battery management system calibrate where the top of the pack is.

yet it’s marketed as some sort of Hero cell when really it’s a cost saving heavy chemistry! I’ll keep watching the video…
 
delta0 said:
What’s the real range of a Performance at 70mph? Weighing up various electric cars and trying to get some real numbers of different cars.
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I'm not sure any electroc car (apart from the taycan) will get amazing range at speed. I'm sure I've ready its due to lack of a gearbox, which I believe is in the taycan. I could be completely wrong though.
 
It’s more about aero.
ICE cars had the benefit of engines getting more efficient the faster they go (to a point) which offset the increased drag.

with EV it’s much more of a straight line relationship. The motors might drop to 90-92% efficient at high speed which is where gears come in. The taycan only has 2 gears on one of the two motors too
 
theone8181 said:
I'm not sure any electroc car (apart from the taycan) will get amazing range at speed. I'm sure I've ready its due to lack of a gearbox, which I believe is in the taycan. I could be completely wrong though.
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Completely expect this issue. I’m trying to put together some realistic numbers to set my expectations. I have found a range of numbers between 250-290 miles but anyones real experiences would be appreciated.
 
Simon said:
It’s more about aero.
ICE cars had the benefit of engines getting more efficient the faster they go (to a point) which offset the increased drag.

with EV it’s much more of a straight line relationship. The motors might drop to 90-92% efficient at high speed which is where gears come in. The taycan only has 2 gears on one of the two motors too
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I think it’s normal to shut down the front motors at high speed. I believe also the Tesla has higher gearing on the rear(?) motors but obviously can’t change gear.
 
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