The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[gpuerrilla]

You know AMD doesn't have drivers

Ooooohhhhhhhhh I see what you did there!!!

 

[gpuerrilla]

Hopefully going forward with Zen 5XXX they will have AMD Test bench.

However it's entirely reasonable that they haven't up til now considering Intel still had the edge in gaming. You can't bench GPU's on the "lesser" platform (And I mean entirely in gaming related loads here).

Up until now was the excuse, people are demanding what the SAM is all about and what % they will see etc. Only way you can do this is to have a modern AMD build. Its forced it.

Hardware Unboxed use a Ryzen 3950x for all testing now and have done for some time.

I know, they were only guys that went public early to test pcie 4 and some flamed them. I'm not saying abandon an intel rig to test GPU's in @Martini1991 , they just need to have another rig to test with now to cater for the player bases - if they want to stay relevant and at the front.

 

[TNA]

You know AMD doesn't have drivers

Haha

 

[Martini1991]

Hardware Unboxed use a Ryzen 3950x for all testing now and have done for some time.

Up until now was the excuse, people are demanding what the SAM is all about and what % they will see etc. Only way you can do this is to have a modern AMD build. Its forced it.



I know, they were only guys that went public early to test pcie 4 and some flamed them. I'm not saying abandon an intel rig to test GPU's in @Martini1991 , they just need to have another rig to test with now to cater for the player bases - if they want to stay relevant and at the front.

It's not an excuse lol.
Why would you test GPU's on a platform that leaves performance on the table in comparison to other available platforms?

Now AMD have taken the lead it's the same thing, AMD CPU platform should be used rather than Intel.

 

[RBImGuy]

The interesting notion is that amd big navi 6800 at a third of the price vs a 3090 be a better buy than any other nvidia card at 4k and 1440p.
The 6700xt early next year be the card everyone would want at 11080p and likely 1440p also.

Nvidia and Intel has only two words now to see in front of them
Game Over

https://www.thetechnoburst.com/ryzen-5-5600x-benchmark-using-cpu-z-software/
with big navis zen3 smart access and rage mode can you feel the power?

 

[Grim5]

From 5 November no reviewer should be using Intel for their go to benchmark rig

Until Intel deliver something that does 5ghz+ all core with 20%+ ipc over comet lake, no one cares and Intel is invalid for any high gpu benchmarks

 

[Grim5]

The interesting notion is that amd big navi 6800 at a third of the price vs a 3090 be a better buy than any other nvidia card at 4k and 1440p.
The 6700xt early next year be the card everyone would want at 11080p and likely 1440p also.

Nvidia and Intel has only two words now to see in front of them
Game Over

https://www.thetechnoburst.com/ryzen-5-5600x-benchmark-using-cpu-z-software/
with big navis zen3 smart access and rage mode can you feel the power?

3090/6900xt are comedy options

value for performance is the 3080 (if you want best ray tracing/dlss) and 6800xt (if you want to future proof with more vram and won't replace the gpu in 2 years)

does amd still do crossfire? 6800xt inn crossfire would be the fastest gaming rig for value if it works

 

[gpuerrilla]

It's not an excuse lol.

Maybe poor choice of words but even grim gets it:

From 5 November no reviewer should be using Intel for their go to benchmark rig

Thats all I was highlighting, and as HU have shown, you could have adopted this months back..

 

[Martini1991]

Maybe poor choice of words but even grim gets it:



Thats all I was highlighting, and as HU have shown, you could have adopted this months back..

But HU have been leaving performance on the table compared to other platforms.

You use the best platform for the task and from November that's AMD 5XXX, but pre that it had to be Intel.

 

[LtMatt]

does amd still do crossfire?

Nope, though it is still supported on workstation GPUs for some professional apps.

 

[Joxeon]

But HU have been leaving performance on the table compared to other platforms.

You use the best platform for the task and from November that's AMD 5XXX, but pre that it had to be Intel.

And what happens if Intel is still faster in games?.

 

[gpuerrilla]

But HU have been leaving performance on the table compared to other platforms.

You use the best platform for the task and from November that's AMD 5XXX, but pre that it had to be Intel.

Could you test pcie4 differences with GPU's etc on an intel platform?

 

[Martini1991]

Could you test pcie4 differences with GPU's etc on an intel platform?

No, I haven't got a problem with different testing, that's not what I'm getting at.

For example the PCI-E 4 benchmarks could be tested against having a faster Intel CPU for gaming etc.

I'm talking purely as the main benchmarking platform.

 

[deuse]

From 5 November no reviewer should be using Intel for their go to benchmark rig

Youtube are using AMD rigs to test the 3000 cards(which makes then slower)

Until Intel deliver something that does 5ghz+ all core with 20%+ ipc over comet lake, no one cares and Intel is invalid for any high gpu benchmarks

I have a [email protected] all cores when I game.
I don't see what your trying to get at? Not everyone will have a AMD\Intel rig.
To be fair, all testing should be done on both.

 

[HRL]

The interesting notion is that amd big navi 6800 at a third of the price vs a 3090 be a better buy than any other nvidia card at 4k and 1440p.
The 6700xt early next year be the card everyone would want at 11080p and likely 1440p also.

Nvidia and Intel has only two words now to see in front of them
Game Over

https://www.thetechnoburst.com/ryzen-5-5600x-benchmark-using-cpu-z-software/
with big navis zen3 smart access and rage mode can you feel the power?

Hahaha. Do you work in marketing?

 

[Martini1991]

And what happens if Intel is still faster in games?.

*If* that would be the case, then you benchmark on the faster platform for said purpose, why would you not? You could be limiting the performance delta of the fastest GPU if you didn't etc.

Considering people are talking about the 6800XT stomping the 3080 by 5 FPS etc, you're potentially giving up that "stomping" etc.

Obviously I'm talking as your main review section.
People do other sections for their reviews at later dates etc.

 

[gpuerrilla]

And what happens if Intel is still faster in games?.

To be fair, all testing should be done on both.

Yep, which is why I said this:

I'm not saying abandon an intel rig to test GPU's in, they just need to have another rig to test with now to cater for the player bases - if they want to stay relevant and at the front.

You cant cover all features, i.e. pci-e4 if your only benching on an intel rig alone.

 

[Feared_Punto]

I’ve decided to go with AMD for my next graphics card but I have a question, do they tend to release new generation on an annual basis or do they stick to the roughly every 2 years that Nvidia seem to do?

 

[gpuerrilla]

I’ve decided to go with AMD for my next graphics card but I have a question, do they tend to release new generation on an annual basis or do they stick to the roughly every 2 years that Nvidia seem to do?

Hmm they are similar to nvidia refreshing older lines. You could argue they stuck with the 480 for years as the 580 is a refresh of this. They still sell them but the new lineup is RDNA2. Before that they didnt make sense as they released RDNA1, VII, Vega between polaris (4th Gen - 2016) and now.

 

[Boot_Loop]

The leaked Ray tracing performance of the 6800 matching the 3070 is pretty incredible for their first go at it. That will be more than enough RT performance to last the gen as the new consoles have about half the RT perf.