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Some of us have no intention of getting a card and just want the entertainment of the reviews on the 18th ;)

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Think i will go for the same, i don't think i can wait for the 6900 XT. If both were available now, I'd probably get the 6900 XT though.

Desperate to upgrade from the Radeon VII, i could use a some extra FPS in some of the latest games at max settings.

You see these last few days my buddy got me to install project cars 2 again, full settings while streaming 3 laps of the ring with about 50 other things open radeon 7 was pinned at 100fps (freesync on) 3440x1440p. The other games im playing, Valorant, full settings average >150fps, pubg >145fps, csgo >200fps so that's really the competitive stuff. HL Alyx I played max settings silky smooth and that game has some incredible visuals. Honestly i'm not a frame rate snob but I can't really find a single game in my library of 141 games where I would have to compromise in any way using the 7.

I havent played much really new stuff though so perhaps some newer titles would stretch its legs. I did just buy the new dungeon defenders because me and a mate want to play that as we played through the original so yea that's not exactly going to stretch the system either. I'm thinking pick up the 6800xt for now and have a little play then perhaps pick up the 6900 later.
 
You see these last few days my buddy got me to install project cars 2 again, full settings while streaming 3 laps of the ring with about 50 other things open radeon 7 was pinned at 100fps (freesync on) 3440x1440p. The other games im playing, Valorant, full settings average >150fps, pubg >145fps, csgo >200fps so that's really the competitive stuff. HL Alyx I played max settings silky smooth and that game has some incredible visuals. Honestly i'm not a frame rate snob but I can't really find a single game in my library of 141 games where I would have to compromise in any way using the 7.

I havent played much really new stuff though so perhaps some newer titles would stretch its legs. I did just buy the new dungeon defenders because me and a mate want to play that as we played through the original so yea that's not exactly going to stretch the system either. I'm thinking pick up the 6800xt for now and have a little play then perhaps pick up the 6900 later.
You are not wrong Vince, in most games. I am just looking for a bit extra in the following at 5120x1440 @120HZ.

COD Modern Warfare (runs 55-70 atm maxed out)
Watchdogs Legion (downloading atm, but based on current perf i know i will need extra)
Far Cry 5 (60-80 atm maxed out)

Not meaning to dismiss Radeon VII, it still is a very capable GPU (and will become a backup - a good one at that :p) especially at resolutions well above 1080P. It steps away from my old 5700 XT overclocked to the gills nicely once you move away from 1080P.
 
You are not wrong Vince, in most games. I am just looking for a bit extra in the following at 5120x1440 @120HZ.

COD Modern Warfare (runs 55-70 atm maxed out)
Watchdogs Legion (downloading atm, but based on current perf i know i will need extra)
Far Cry 5 (60-80 atm maxed out)

Not meaning to dismiss Radeon VII, it still is a very capable GPU (and will become a backup - a good one at that :p) especially at resolutions well above 1080P. It steps away from my old 5700 XT overclocked to the gills nicely once you move away from 1080P.

It's one of those strange ones for me, like upgrading my cpu (1950x) I am really struggling to find massive value in the upgrade. You know i'm going to buy one, but justifying 600-700 is quite hard when at least for me right now there isn't really anything that struggles. I also think the 7's shroud is much classier but I can get over that.

To be fair I did also build my mrs a system based around 3000 series ryzen which I water cooled and modded so that sort of helped me get over my new tech boredom for a while. Oh and yesterday I took delivery of a pallet full of AMD based mini PC's. :D
 
It's one of those strange ones for me, like upgrading my cpu (1950x) I am really struggling to find massive value in the upgrade. You know i'm going to buy one, but justifying 600-700 is quite hard when at least for me right now there isn't really anything that struggles. I also think the 7's shroud is much classier but I can get over that.

To be fair I did also build my mrs a system based around 3000 series ryzen which I water cooled and modded so that sort of helped me get over my new tech boredom for a while.
I could be wrong, but it seems like a 1950X > 3950X would be a more worthwhile upgrade than a Radeon VII > 6800 XT. What do you think?

Performance uplift would be huge with a 5950X, but if you are not in anyway CPU limited i suppose you wouldn't notice much change.

I still have a 1920X and i noticed a big difference switching to a 3950X in Football Manager 2020 processing time.
 
Zen 2 per core is much faster than Zen 1, Zen 3 much faster again.

I had a Ryzen 1600, i skipped the 2600 but the 3600 is A LOT faster coupled with about 20% higher IPC and 10% higher clocks.

The architectural difference also help a good chunk on top of that in some games.
 
I could be wrong, but it seems like a 1950X > 3950X would be a more worthwhile upgrade than a Radeon VII > 6800 XT. What do you think?

Performance uplift would be huge with a 5950X, but if you are not in anyway CPU limited i suppose you wouldn't notice much change.

I still have a 1920X and i noticed a big difference switching to a 3950X in Football Manager 2020 processing time.

Yea I noticed the mrs 3600x felt snappier in most things but for me im not 100% bothered about how snappy it is as I tend to have to build up big test estates for work so it's simply core count and massive IO, I'm currently running 7 nvme, an array of sata ssd's and an array of 8tb spindals alongside my nas so I have staged storage depending on the project. For me work comes first, gaming second, so moving down in terms of platform isn't really an option, not to mention I currently run 8 dimms of trident z rgb 3466 in quad channel which some of my workloads benefit from and they also cost a small fortune when I bought the platform probably 3 years ago now.

Conclusion really is trx40 / Threadripper 5000 series for the home machine. 5950x is no doubt a beast but im thinking threadripper is really where I need to be in terms of I/O.
 
My gaming mates keep taking the pee out of me for having "half a CPU" (they have the dual CCD Ryzen 3000's) but i'll tell you what it chews through anything i throw at it with ease, its a little animal, by far the best CPU i have had the pleasure of owning. i even love the fact that its only a baby Ryzen 3000 because it demolishes high end CPU's that i was envious of just a few years ago.
 
Yea I noticed the mrs 3600x felt snappier in most things but for me im not 100% bothered about how snappy it is as I tend to have to build up big test estates for work so it's simply core count and massive IO, I'm currently running 7 nvme, an array of sata ssd's and an array of 8tb spindals alongside my nas so I have staged storage depending on the project. For me work comes first, gaming second, so moving down in terms of platform isn't really an option, not to mention I currently run 8 dimms of trident z rgb 3466 in quad channel which some of my workloads benefit from and they also cost a small fortune when I bought the platform probably 3 years ago now.

Conclusion really is trx40 / Threadripper 5000 series for the home machine.
Yep makes sense, i had not considered your use case was looking at it purely from a gaming perspective.
 
So what reference cooling brand you guys aim for, gigabyte, sapphire or asrock? I only seen these so far

Sapphire and then maybe Asrock, but Gigabyte or Asus not so much.

Sorry if it wasnt clear but I was referring to the reply to your questions that put the 6800xt to the 2080ti performance levels 'at worst'.

Funny.
RX 6800 should be quite a bit faster than RTX 2080 Ti, maybe 5-10%.
 
Yep makes sense, i had not considered your use case was looking at it purely from a gaming perspective.

From a gaming perspective my mrs machine is probably a better base, 3600x, 16gb ddr4 (nanya a-die 3200 @3600mhz c16), Single NVME, currently a rx470 in it. Water cooled CPU... It games surprisingly well. If I gave her my 7 it would game even better!
 
My gaming mates keep taking the pee out of me for having "half a CPU" (they have the dual CCD Ryzen 3000's) but i'll tell you what it chews through anything i throw at it with ease, its a little animal, by far the best CPU i have had the pleasure of owning. i even love the fact that its only a baby Ryzen 3000 because it demolishes high end CPU's that i was envious of just a few years ago.

Your half CPU, and I know this because i own both will give a 2700x a good spanking in gaming workloads, keep up with it in productivity all while having 2 less cores and being 65w vs 105w, oh and it was also cheaper. :)
 
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...z-socket-trx4-processor-retail-cp-3bn-am.html

Zen 2 24/48 and it should drop into your existing board. for gaming these don't have the Ryzen HEDT tax, they game just as well as the Mainstream Ryzen 3000, AMD fixed whatever it was that crippled gaming performance on Zen 1 HEDT.

Im x399 :( I need to buy a trx40 board and cpu. Perhaps next year on that one. TBH I run the least favoured config for gaming (all 16 cores 32 threads enabled, memory in numa/distributed) yet I genuinely don't have any issues at all with gaming, never did. If you followed the build though I did have massive issues with esxi so I bought a couple of boards. I still have the asus prime laying about somewhere.
 
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