Depends how much you paid for one I suppose. The 3070 is probably isn't a terrible proposition if you only want it for 2K gaming max and can get one at the FE price point. It just becomes an increasingly crap proposition as you get closer to the 6800 price point. If the 6800 had come out at < £500 they might as well have stopped making the 3070 in its current configuration.
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Depends how much you paid for one I suppose. The 3070 is probably isn't a terrible proposition if you only want it for 2K gaming max and can get one at the FE price point. It just becomes an increasingly crap proposition as you get closer to the 6800 price point. If the 6800 had come out at < £500 they might as well have stopped making the 3070 in its current configuration.
Based on the benchmarks, 6800 XT smashes the 3080 at 1080p, slightly outperforms it at 1440p and gets dominated at 4K. The same will be happening with the 6900 XT vs 3090 but the latter is terribly priced. NVIDIA has to drop in the 3080 Ti in Jan 2021 so the line-up is evenly matched.
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Seems like the 6800 can get very close to a stock 6800XT with a bit of overclocking. Apparently Kit Guru maxed the memory overclocking slider in WattMan on the 6800 so there may be more in the tank.
Something like RDR2 will probably still be selling more than those other new games outside of Valhalla's initial new sales. People don't stop playing games when they reach a certain age.
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The 3070 is just too inflated at the moment.
But it's meant to be like $100 cheaper than the 5800 anyway.
HUB said the 6800 XT is 5% behind the 3080 at 4K, over 18 games.
That is using a 3950X, without Rage Mode and SAM running, which will net more 6800 XT performance.
I don't think 5% either way can count as getting dominated, can it?
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It's close enough that I couldn't care less if I'm using a 3080 or 6800 XT, the price difference seems to be pretty big though...
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30% /50% ... where???!
If you exclude the weird cases... the difference is like 10%/15%.. and are even games where AMD has more performance than Nvidia.
This argument is full of straws, there are a lot of games that have a large following and some of them a decade old, only one game out of Gamers Nexus stack is less than 18 months old, most are multiple years old.
Games evolve to take advantage of progressive architectural improvements in GPU's and CPU's, if most of the games you are testing with are 2+ years old they are way behind the curve, and we can clearly see that by watching the difference between the Gamers Nexus review and the Hardware Unboxed review.
Watching Gamers Nexus all i know is how my future GPU will perform in past games, most of which i don't play anymore, watching Hardware Unboxed i know what the future performance on brand new games and likely yet to be released games are going to be like on this brand new architecture.
Looks like it.
Theres always one i guess.
1080p or 1440p 6800xt. Everything else RTX 3080 is faster. RTX 3080 is massively faster in ray tracing games. RTX 3080 can be upto 15% faster in games at 4k because of the faster memory and better rops.
@LtMatt - Just quickly watched the Hardware Unboxed review of the 6800XT. Very impressed with what I saw. AMD is back baby!
His reviews are terrible recently and a sellout. Go check other reviews. He sees AMD have 1 % lead and sits there going over it many times in a positive manner but NVIDIA beat it by 20%+ he goes well AMD is fast enough at that resolution and don't need more frames than that. He's really full of it recently and look at his body language at the end, liar liar pants on fire behaviour. Sellouts like many of the reviewers on youtube.
AMD did good and happy to see they are back but sorry 3080 vs 6800xt , 3080 is still better value.
Also HU are clearly siding with manufacturers that are sponsoring them or back hand payments or free hardware. Many more are doing this now, Even digital foundry are not the same , total Nvidia shills now and Intel shills. I'm not sticking up for AMD or Nvidia here they are both as bad as each other.
BUT youtube reviewers are disgusting these days with their shilling and twisting facts or adding negatives when their results clearly show it's better.
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Then you look at Dirt 5 above with RT on and AMD are way faster. Dirt 5 was designed with RDNA 2 in mind so it's not all doom and gloom on the RT front.
So how does that make it far faster? and even at 4k 'FAR' isnt a word id use. RT sure its a bit in front, but the radeon cards arent horrendously behind, especially given this is their first attempt.
More fps with Ray Tracing on than 3080 off.. lol.
ray traced shadows. 1 game
Vs the massive library currently available of ray traced games?
More fps with Ray Tracing on than 3080 off.. lol.
Yeah and this is my point really....
Unless you are someone who plays games as soon as they come out we all have backlogs. I haven't played RDR2 or Horizon ZD yet for example. That wasn't my point though and your post has gone off on a tangent explaining stuff everyone already knows. My point is that we should base performance on multiple reviews, as opposed to just ignoring one's that don't fit our message.
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