Cancel him until he does go back to Amd.
P.S can the mods only allow him to post in the Nvidia threads.
Oh Good Grief no....
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Oh Good Grief no....
That’s not how it works and you know it.
Haha.
They will still be maintaining their premium with the 3080ti and 3090 its just that the competition this time around forced nvidia to use the better die for the 80 non ti which traditionally has been around 30% behind the 80ti but this time will only be around 10% but they also added the extra tier in the 3090 so they don't lose out.
I disagree, they are losing out of the profit margins they wanted to have. I'm not saying they are bad, it just not as good as what they wanted and they could have had. They wanted that 102 die with an MSRP of at least £1000 (being conservative). The die in the 3070 should have been in the 3080.
Let's assume that the 6900XT was only as fast as the 3070.
How many people would have been willing to spend 3080 money on a ga104 die (A.K.A 3070 performance)?
How many people would have got a 3090/3080ti instead of a 3080 if the 3080 was using the ga104 die?
I think some people on the forums said they didn't get a 3090 because the performance jump compared to the 3080 wasn't big enough. They were clearly prepared to spend over £1000 on a GPU but didn't. Money that Nvidia isn't going to get.
Nvidia could have been selling the GA104 die for £649 instead it is £469.
Nvidia could have been selling the GA102 die for £1400 instead they have to settle for £649.
O is it not a nvidia thread
Buy whatever you prefer, personal preference and all. Unless you're humbug, then Nvidia.
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My Seasonic PSU isn't coming until Jan 1st
A 5800X or a 5700X (CPU) if the latter materialises.
A 6800XT or a 6700XT if the latter materialises and can do high-refresh 1440p.
A Gibabyte B550 Aorus Pro
A 970 Evo Plus 1TB or better.
In the meantime I've got plenty of searching to do for:
The perfect ATX case
The perfect UWQHD high-refresh monitor.
Some balls, in order to get an AIO and not be worried about water destroying everything (it's an irrational fear!)
Going to be an expensive start to the year but **** it. The 2500K keeps moaning about wanting to retire to a beach in Fiji
e: I would quite happily buy a 6800XT at the AMD RRP of <£600 (right now), but they are rarer than rocking horse crap, and realistically I have zero chance.
Hang on a second, your upgrading the whole damn rig!! Cant yield them sob stories when your shelling out such an outlay!
I only upgraded the GPU this year (and end of year at that) with the look to it lasting 3+ years (it only had to handle 4k display that I have had for a while and the vega struggled to push). You can get the FE cards you just need to be ready for 2-3pm on the day the alerts drop. Out of them all the 3080's seem to be harder to get alerts for and I wasnt interested in any of the marked up AIB flavours.
For the record, I couldn't get the 3080FE on release, and couldn't get the 6800XT on release, I did try hard for them.
Well most of this rig dates from 2012, so I think I've had fairly decent value from itHang on a second, your upgrading the whole damn rig!! Cant yield them sob stories when your shelling out such an outlay!
I only upgraded the GPU this year (and end of year at that) with the look to it lasting 3+ years (it only had to handle 4k display that I have had for a while and the vega struggled to push). You can get the FE cards you just need to be ready for 2-3pm on the day the alerts drop. Out of them all the 3080's seem to be harder to get alerts for and I wasnt interested in any of the marked up AIB flavours.
For the record, I couldn't get the 3080FE on release, and couldn't get the 6800XT on release, I did try hard for them.
Very little of it is worth re-using. In fact none, really.The new rig will take me from 2012 to 2021. 1080p out, 60Hz out, 1440p in, 100Hz+ in
Couldn't give a stuff about RT tho!And after crying over the loss of 16:10 I'm going to go the other way and try a 21:9, lol. I do so love to contradict myself.
I do draw the line well before a 3090 tho
And I'm not letting AMD push me to a 5900X either
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Well most of this rig dates from 2012, so I think I've had fairly decent value from it
I carried over my PSU, Case then utilised stock of case fans/cables I amassed over the years on random sale buys. When the Ryzen 3600 first released I picked that up and B450 board + RAM so it was essentially a budget upgrade that year. I was on an FX vishera build since 2013 and a 290x for many years, this progressive stage upgrade is easier to afford but trying to capitalise on the new gens as I go along. Been eyeing up the Ampere/RDNA2 cards for months - couldnt pull the trigger on the 5700XT it just wasnt worth it.
I would imagen all of the dies are pretty cheap since they're on Samsung 8nm so even the full 102 is probably much cheaper than what AMD are paying.
Had nvidia gone with tsmc 7nm then the 80 non ti would have most certainly been a TU104 and it would have still matched or beaten a Samsung TU102 as we would be looking at an RTX 3070 shader equivalent card but with clocks at 2600mhz and much better power efficiency but would also probably cost more than the larger Samsung die.
Of course companies like nvidia and AMD will always charge more if they can get away with it when there isn't much competition like what happened with Turing and the same that's going on now with ryzen 5000 series so if AMD overtake nvidia in the Gpu space next time out then you will probably see the 7800XT at £1000 and the 7900XT at £1400.
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Personally never found 21:9 a good option for my main monitor - in fact my 21:9 screen hardly gets any use now - I ditched the 1440p one for another 16:9 4K screen and only reason I kept the 1080p one is that it is a Dell IPS with very good image quality.
Yeah. For me 4K is where it's at. But if one does not upgrade often then better not see 4K and go 1440p ultra wide which is much easier to run.
I dont think I could go back to 4k 60hz again, I tried it a couple of years ago when borrowing a monitor from work and it was hideous ie refresh rate, I think if I went 4k again it would have to be one of the higher refresh 4k monitors. Then again its the cost.
I am lucky as I find 60hz to be fine. But maybe that is because I do not play online or any twitch games. I have a 165hz 1440p monitor and prefer this 4K 60hz one over it. Next upgrade for me is OLED 120hz 4K. But probably in a couple of years time.
Hideous... really? The world was gaming at 30fps and less for decades and is still mostly gaming at 60hz, especially at higher resolutions, very happily. I get why people prefer higher refresh rates in general, but 60fps is of course still very playable.
I have actually moved from a 27" 4K 60hz to a 34" 3440x1440 144Hz and that has been night and day better for gaming and productivity for me tbh. Higher res is great but the larger screen real estate to basically have two monitors in one for my day to day work makes things much easier. I mean a 38" I think would be the sweat spot for me but the price difference is huge tbh and often have other compromises. There just needs to be a proper 21:9 OLED 38" with dolby vision and we good to go and I am happy to drop £1k on a monitor rather than the £300-£400 I do these days.
Quoted for truth... Im running a 3440x1440 100mhz screen that ive had a few years now, i will potentially trade it in for the same screen but IPS and 144hz+, there are a few around.
Want to pickup a 6800XT first tho, this Aorus 3080 i have is great but its huge like a housebrick, and in all honesty having tried Ray Tracing in Watchdogs and CoD its underwhelming for the performance hit, i can see why people say DLSS is so good tho as it claws back your fps with RT enabled.
So im stock watching now for a 6800XT, soon as one appears this 3080 is going on the market.
Will then look at a new Freesync premium screen and I think thatll be me done.
Just need my 5900x now to arrive in the next few days
Dont get hz mixed up with fps ! They may be connected but they are different things. Not talking about gaming at 60fps talking about a monitor with a 60hz refresh rate.
60hz I find awful yes, 75hz is the lowest I can stand now. I think its when you go 60hz > 144hz > 165hz then back down to 60hz is the most telling. I chose 75hz monitor because my kids have them and I tried it before getting my 75hz 32". As an example 30-45fps on my 75hz monitor is fine for me. Some people think this is awful.
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