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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

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Also this is how perform against 3090 at valhalla with Sam

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Lol you have 1% lows as big as their average frame rate on 6800xt. :)
BTW now are you convinced that the 6900xt was power limited?
 
But only for one of the best case scenario :D

%37 improvement at Zero dawn.
That's both fine wine and a Christmas miracle!
I asked you about the 6900xt, i've seen you talked with an ( red devil maybe? ) owner on another forum which i am not sure we can mention here and he said he went all the way up to 500W :D
I told you before that the card needs more power, let's hope now he will find the right balance to show us some records.
Found another one on hwbot - FS ultra and that one is on stock cooling. All 3090s around him are on LN2 and the other 6900xt is on chiller.
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That's both fine wine and a Christmas miracle!
I asked you about the 6900xt, i've seen you talked with an ( red devil maybe? ) owner on another forum which i am not sure we can mention here and he said he went all the way up to 500W :D
I told you before that the card needs more power, let's hope now he will find the right balance to show us some records.

I saw one at guru3d forum today who reached 500w but i doubt he can get records. He said -21c and 2850mhz. Good binned gpu but not the best i guess.

Here is some runs of him at various fire strike:

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24454850
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24453884
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24453777
 
I saw one at guru3d forum today who reached 500w but i doubt he can get records. He said -21c and 2850mhz. Good binned gpu but not the best i guess.

Here is some runs of him at various fire strike:

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24454850
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24453884
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/24453777

Oh so he is on Asrock. Yeah so the best cards seem to be that freaking Red Devil and most likely the ASUS LC when available. I think they can kill some 3090s on other benchmarks too. :)
 
Oh so he is on Asrock. Yeah so the best cards seem to be that freaking Red Devil and most likely the ASUS LC when available. I think they can kill some 3090s on other benchmarks too. :)

Maybe, But why 6900xt perform so poor at time spy? If there is no limit for 6800xt maybe i can even beat all of the 6900xt. That's how poor their scores. Also why hwbot has different rules and settings while they can use standart 3dmark? I can't compere results just because of that :rolleyes:

Edit: @Port royal also not good enough.
 
We will see better scores as more 3X8 AIB cards will be bought and more people will test them and maybe there will be a way to remove these limitations in the future on the 6800xt. It is still early, AMD cards become better after a while. :)
 
So anything new about RDNA2?? Or is become the battle of people justifying whatever GPUs and games they like?? Maybe the thread title needs a change. I can do that because I am certainly not reading much about RDNA2 based GPUs,or anything remotely related here.

Edit!!

If people want to drone on about Cyberpunk 2077 the there is already a large thread about here on this subforum:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/cyberpunk-2077-ultra-performance.18910855/page-53

Well HU commented on one of their Q&As that AMD may not get a DLSS equivalent out until their refresh, perhaps a year away. For a new card it's been very quiet.
 
The negative feedback about rt you are ignoring. People are objecting to your bias claims and telling you that the game fine without rt ,for example. And showing you how pointless some elements are like shadows.

The more you keep defending nvidia implimentation of fake rt the more you expose your own bias. The pics you've posted are not revolutionary nor evolutionary. And they are suppose to have 5 elements of ray tracing in them. Looks like they need to add another 5 more element.

Again, thats for proving my point.b
Rofl
:D

I never once said the game isn't great without RT. What I am claiming is that it adds another level of immersion. At times it no longer looks like the legacy flat world with cardboard cut outs that we have got used to once you turn on RT. Shadows add depth to a scene when done correctly. How can shadows be pointless? I'm not defending Nvidia's implementation of RT, I'm saying how good RT is in this game. You're just having a tantrum due to only Nvidia having the RT performance to do this ATM.

DirectX Raytracing Feature Test

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  1. Score 63.14, GPU 3090 @2265/4876, CPU 5950X @4.8, Post No.0462, OC2000 - Link Drivers 460.79
  2. Score 62.98, GPU 3090 @2205/5328, CPU 9900KF @5.0, Post No.0379, spartapee - Link Drivers 457.09
  3. Score 62.38, GPU 3090 @2160/4976, CPU 9900k @5.0, Post No.0480, Raiden85 - Link Drivers 460.89
  4. Score 62.25, GPU 3090 @2220/5276, CPU 10900k @5.3, Post No.0373, Jay-G25 - Link Drivers 457.09
  5. Score 61.19, GPU 3090 @2160/5252, CPU 6950X @4.405, Post No.0372, FlyingScotsman - Link Drivers 457.09
  6. Score 60.23, GPU 3090 @2145/5176, CPU 3175X @4.8, Post No.0415, sedy25 - Link Drivers 457.30
  7. Score 59.34, GPU 3090 @2070/4976, CPU 5950X @4.965, Post No.0474, Grim5 - Link Drivers 460.89
  8. Score 58.58, GPU 3090 @2100/5276, CPU 3600X @4.4, Post No.0445, Bickaxe - Link Drivers 457.51
  9. Score 55.57, GPU 3090 @1980/4876, CPU 5950X @4.1, Post No.0429, Kivafck - Link Drivers 457.30
  10. Score 55.57, GPU 3090 @1995/4876, CPU 10900k @5.1, Post No.0357, Sedgey123 - Link Drivers 457.09
  11. Score 55.50, GPU 3090 @2085/5076, CPU 3800X @4.7, Post No.0450, ChrisUK1983 - Link Drivers 457.51
  12. Score 55.47, GPU 3090 @2040/4876, CPU 5900X @3.7, Post No.0423, atomic7431 - Link Drivers 457.30
  13. Score 54.39, GPU 3090 @1905/5176, CPU 10900k @5.2, Post No.0446, kipperthedog - Link Drivers 457.51
  14. Score 52.24, GPU 3080 @2235/5252, CPU 3900X @4.649, Post No.0413, haszek - Link Drivers 457.09
  15. Score 50.56, GPU 3080 @2145/5248, CPU 3600 @4.4, Post No.0411, TNA - Link Drivers 457.30
  16. Score 34.15, GPU 6900XT @2625/4280, CPU 5800X @5.049, Post No.0477, 6900 XT - Link Drivers 20.12.2
  17. Score 33.31, GPU 3070 @2085/4050, CPU 3175X @4.12, Post No.0392, sedy25 - Link Drivers 457.09
  18. Score 32.54, GPU 2080 Ti @2130/3500, CPU 3950X @4.301, Post No.0357, Grim5 - Link Drivers 452.06
  19. Score 29.91, GPU 2080 Ti @1980/3500, CPU 8700 @4.3, Post No.0391, Quartz - Link Drivers 456.55
  20. Score 23.96, GPU 6800 @2295/4220, CPU 3900X @4.541, Post No.0459, Chrisc - Link Drivers 20.12.1
  21. Score 21.36, GPU 2080 @2025/4050, CPU 9900k @5.0, Post No.0365, Cooper - Link Drivers 457.09

The pics you've posted are not revolutionary nor evolutionary.

How can more physically correct lighting not be revolutionary and evolutionary? Do you game with 100p, 2 bit colour, no AA, etc. due to any upgrades in the last ~35 years not being revolutionary and evolutionary? :rolleyes:

Maybe Apple, AMD, Intel, Micorsoft, Nvidia and Sony got it wrong, while you remain the modern day graphics messiah :D
 
People dismissed Hardware T&L when it first came out
People dismissed Pixel Shaders when they first came out
People dismissed Pixel Shader 2.0 when it first came out because it was extremely slow unless you had a Radeon 9800 pro
People dismissed Tessellation when it first came out because Nvidia were so much better at it

All these features/techniques ended up being in almost every single mainstream game.

RT and some form of AI upscaling will follow the same route but there will always be people who are short sighted and don't realise that the world moves on past the present time. They don't seem to grasp that these features evolve and become mainstream and are eventually used in the majority of games. Currently they are new, still in their infancy, but they need to start somewhere just like all the other features that are now so common they're not even given a second thought...
 
People dismissed Hardware T&L when it first came out
People dismissed Pixel Shaders when they first came out
People dismissed Pixel Shader 2.0 when it first came out because it was extremely slow unless you had a Radeon 9800 pro
People dismissed Tessellation when it first came out because Nvidia were so much better at it

All these features/techniques ended up being in almost every single mainstream game.

RT and some form of AI upscaling will follow the same route but there will always be people who are short sighted and don't realise that the world moves on past the present time. They don't seem to grasp that these features evolve and become mainstream and are eventually used in the majority of games. Currently they are new, still in their infancy, but they need to start somewhere just like all the other features that are now so common they're not even given a second thought...
Yes, in the future RT will be done well and we will have the hardware to make it worthwhile.

That won't be any time soon tho. The current gen consoles have anaemic RT capability, and even 3000 series top cards can't do it at high res+high FPS.

It's one for the future.
 
He's mad that it aucks for LN2 overclocking - that's his thing, when you hit the arbritrary software limit with water it makes LN2 magic speed juice useless
For me the worst thing AMD did with the 6900xt is the 2x8 power connector and the cooling. I understand there are people who are going full LN2 but i am more impressed with the performance on air or water since it is a little hard to play games while you pour LN2 on your card. :)
I think the MBA 6900xt and the AIB's with 2x8 pins, have trouble reaching even 2.8 Ghz even if you take them to space to cool them because there isn't enough power on these cards.
LN2 looks nice for world records but that's all, if a regular person is buying a card because it does well on LN2, he is insane.
 
So anything new about RDNA2?? Or is become the battle of people justifying whatever GPUs and games they like?? Maybe the thread title needs a change. I can do that because I am certainly not reading much about RDNA2 based GPUs,or anything remotely related here.

Edit!!

If people want to drone on about Cyberpunk 2077 the there is already a large thread about here on this subforum:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/cyberpunk-2077-ultra-performance.18910855/page-53

Checked in here, hard to spot the quality with the tit for tat bickering, great thread title now though! :D
 
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