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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

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It seems like Nvidia for some reason have struggled this generation and thought the only way they could pull ahead of AMD was going to be using GDDR6X to get some sort of performance advantage.

However with how expensive this is and probably how short supply this is, has meant they could only really put 10GB of it on their flag ship card.

Perhaps they should have gone GDDR6 like AMD and put more of it.

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Me personally I think I am sticking with Nvidia. I have a Gsync monitor. I think Nvidia have a stronger ecosystem overall etc...

Whether I keep my 3080 10GB order or cancel and wait for a card with more vram is the only debate.
 
I'm still trying to understand the ray tracing side from AMD

So they have ray accelerators baked into the CUs, which accelerate the calculations required for ray tracing results etc (whereas Nvidia has seperate cores to do this). And its using Microsoft DXR to do this, right? So...am I thinking that if the game supports DXR that AMDs card should just work as well?
 
The current COD and BF are DXR titles iirc that run on RTX, think the rest are RTX titles
Technically yes but the games could have code to disable features on non RTX cards etc. AMD wouldn't have risked leaks by reaching out for a version to test. It looks like they are going to focus on future ray tracing implementation in conjunction with consoles on games like far cry 6 and the ones they showed today etc.
 
Funny how things turn around, literally a few months ago all you read on here from the "Green faithful" was "AMD are 2 generations behind they will be lucky equalling 2080ti, and if they do 3080 will crush them".

Yeah, that worked out well. AMD have now done on the gpu side what they did on the cpu side, Nvidia and Intel made the same mistake by underestimating them. AMD are now as fast as Nvidia offerings at lower wattage, not much more to be said on that front really. :D
 
I'm still trying to understand the ray tracing side from AMD

So they have ray accelerators baked into the CUs, which accelerate the calculations required for ray tracing results etc. And its using Microsoft DXR to do this, right? So...am I thinking that if the game supports DXR that AMDs card should just work as well?


This is the concern IMO.

Lets just wait and see review day as hopefully someone puts these cards through CONTROL and SOTR.

Without DLSS, I just don't see the framerates as looking very pretty. Super resolution sounds... vague.. but promising if its as difficult to impliment as DLSS.
 
I'm still trying to understand the ray tracing side from AMD

So they have ray accelerators baked into the CUs, which accelerate the calculations required for ray tracing results etc. And its using Microsoft DXR to do this, right? So...am I thinking that if the game supports DXR that AMDs card should just work as well?

Gamers Nexus gave that a go, they reckon it can do non-custom RT and any custom RT will need code to be rewritten.
 
Funny how things turn around, literally a few months ago all you read on here from the "Green faithful" was "AMD are 2 generations behind they will be lucky equalling 2080ti, and if they do 3080 will crush them".

Yeah, that worked out well. AMD have now done on the gpu side what they did on the cpu side, Nvidia and Intel made the same mistake by underestimating them. AMD are now as fast as Nvidia offerings at lower wattage, not much more to be said on that front really. :D


I was one of those people. I stand corrected.

If AMD keep it up, RDNA3 is going to kill NVIDIA at this rate.
 
Directstorage is for SSDs and AMD list this as something different from Smart Access. It seems Smart Access is for faster RAM access across the memory subsystem.

I only skimmed stuff quickly whilst making the updates - I will have a proper read later on.

ye but not worked on nv YET and was used by AMD
@Troezar thats why NAVI looks even worse for Me on x470

Well I am on a B450 motherboards,so probably in the same boat as you.

Yeah, the PS5 and Xbox X are absolutely stellar for the price.

At current prices I'm buying nothing and sticking with my 3900X and 5700XT.

I have a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX1080. I will probably upgrade the CPU at some point,but the Zen3 prices have put me off so far - waiting to see if there is noise about the cheaper SKUs. GPUs,I think I will try and hold on for as long as I can.
 
Gamers Nexus gave that a go, they reckon it can do non-custom RT and any custom RT will need code to be rewritten.

Gotcha, and is Nvidia the flip side. Its all custom ray tracing?

This is the concern IMO.

Lets just wait and see review day as hopefully someone puts these cards through CONTROL and SOTR.

Without DLSS, I just don't see the framerates as looking very pretty. Super resolution sounds... vague.. but promising if its as difficult to impliment as DLSS.

Yeah lets just wait, its just exciting now isn't it :D
 
Show me some real world benchmarks.

The issues I have with the 6900 vs 3090 comparison is that its a cherry picked list with RAGE/Smart enabled and it trades blows with some wins and loses.

Now, show us a more real world scenario, with rage/smart on/off, against a wider spectrum of titles on a variety of different hardware. Maybe some RT Performance metrics and then we can safely say it matches or beats the 3090.

People seem to forget that Nvidia pulled some dodgy shenanigans with their presentation. You think AMD are above reproach?
 
Well that's the 3080Ti pretty much confirmed then :D
Where's it going to sit though? AMD have put the 6900XT right on its price band but at the same performance as the 3090, NV can't therefore charge more than £1k for the TI but they can't price it too close to the none TI varient either.

It's a pretty difficult position they've put NV in tbh as they are either going to ruin the 3080 or pitch it against the 6900XT which it surely can't compete with without also destroying their own 3090.
 
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