The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[EastCoastHandle]

AMD's engineers do come up with some clever and innovative ways to increase performance.

This looks looks like this can also mitigate console ported games with little effort IMO.
If MS actually does allow direct port of their games via download to you via powershell the performance gains would be huge IMO.

 

[Zeeflyboy]

With the way AMD are able to squeeze more perf with drivers over time, the 6800XT is shaping up to be quite something special

That'll be interesting to see - in theory if they are investing more upfront in their driver team one would assume that would frontload a lot of the improvements as compared to a smaller team working more slowly on optimisations over time.

If they are putting more resources into drivers I would expect fine wine to reduce as they'll tap more of the potential out of the gate.

I can't wait - my only quandry is 6800XT or go all out and ride the wave with 6900XT.

 

[tommybhoy]

Who is they?

Pascal

 

[Hairydavey]

I did have a Strix 3090 on order which I plonked £1700 down for.

That's been cancelled after watching the announcement.

I'm already set on replacing my creaky 6700k with a Zen 3 cpu and X570 board anyway, but seeing those benchmarks for the 6900XT made my mind up for me. Near 3090 performance for around £700 less than I was about to pay is a no brainer, and as I'm going Zen 3 anyway it makes sense to jump to AMDs ecosystem.

My last team red build was an AMD 2800+ Athlon with an Ati (pre AMD takeover) 9800 Pro, just so glad there is some competition at last!

 

[KentMan]

That'll be interesting to see - in theory if they are investing more upfront in their driver team one would assume that would frontload a lot of the improvements as compared to a smaller team working more slowly on optimisations over time.

If they are putting more resources into drivers I would expect fine wine to reduce as they'll tap more of the potential out of the gate.

I can't wait - my only quandry is 6800XT or go all out and ride the wave with 6900XT.

6900XT is lovely but the 6800XT is the sweetspot i feel, plus im hoping the partner cards can wring more performance out of them as well.

Hoping for a Sapphire Toxic edition

 

[Hedge]

One of the highlights for me was the size of the cards. I plan on making a mini itx build at some point and I think these cards will be a more comfortable fit.

 

[KentMan]

I did have a Strix 3090 on order which I plonked £1700 down for.

That's been cancelled after watching the announcement.

I'm already set on replacing my creaky 6700k with a Zen 3 cpu and X570 board anyway, but seeing those benchmarks for the 6900XT made my mind up for me. Near 3090 performance for around £700 less than I was about to pay is a no brainer, and as I'm going Zen 3 anyway it makes sense to jump to AMDs ecosystem.

My last team red build was an AMD 2800+ Athlon with an Ati (pre AMD takeover 9800 Pro, just so glad there is some competition at last!

In your case that £700 literally buys you either the 5950 or a 5900 and a fair whack off a motherboard

 

[g67575]

The Smart Access memory is a very convenient way for AMD to game the rx 6000 series benchmarks shown today. You need to assume performance is 5-6% worse for a fair comparison really, many will not be upgrading their CPUs to the Ryzen 5000 series as well.

More info here:
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smart-access-memory

In the case of the RX 6800, the FPS is reduced below 60 in some games, without smart access memory.

 

[Zeeflyboy]

6900XT is lovely but the 6800XT is the sweetspot i feel, plus im hoping the partner cards can wring more performance out of them as well.

Hoping for a Sapphire Toxic edition

I'm coming from not having had an AMD GPU since I think around 2003... My plan is to pop a water block on whatever I buy. Given what I've heard around AMD reference boards being over engineered anyway, do we expect a reference card to be able to achieve what eg a hypothetical Sapphire Toxic could achieve when cooling is taken out of the equation?

 

[Darujhistan]

One of the highlights for me was the size of the cards. I plan on making a mini itx build at some point and I think these cards will be a more comfortable fit.

Yep, the 3090 went from looking like a breeze block, to its own tombstone, in about a hour.

 

[Vertigo]

Near 3090 performance for around £700 less than I was about to pay is a no brainer

Eh? The 3080 offers "near 3090 performance" and is around £700 cheaper so why didn't you order one of those?

 

[Troezar]

This looks looks like this can also mitigate console ported games with little effort IMO.
If MS actually does allow direct port of their games via download to you via powershell the performance gains would be huge IMO.

It certainly looks like they planned to align their PC offerings with the consoles from way back. Very smart move, gives an advantage their competitors will have trouble replicating. Also any overlap in the technology saves R&D costs and time. I think Lisa Su has definitely earned

 

[signal11th]

You realise AMD's cards will sell out instantly as well right?
The whole queuing thing we have with Nvidia will be happening all over again but with AMD. They may get more product out, but they certainly will not have enough for the demand

Of course I know but i'm in no rush I got caught up in release day hype, my current gpu still powers through everything I play, it will be after xmas before I buy anything anyway, more like feb/march

 

[Hairydavey]

In your case that £700 literally buys you either the 5950 or a 5900 and a fair whack off a motherboard

Exactly my intention!

I would have been mad to stick with the 3090 after that announcement

 

[otester]

I'm seeing a lot about gaming performance. But what about the rest? How is RDNA2 at rendering, encoding, machine learning etc? Where is AMD on PyTorch, MXNet, TensorFlow? Does Nvidia have advantages beyond gaming?

I suspect they didn't mention them because Nvidia wins, 3080 gaming benchmarks saw up to 2x performance improvements vs 2080 but it can higher than this with rendering etc. due to the RT cores.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Pascal

All I'm suggesting is that the game could have a hard check in the code that stops the feature being enabled on AMD cards at the moment as until now no AMD supported it.
Maybe maybe not does it matter that much?

 

[NZXT30]

That'll be interesting to see - in theory if they are investing more upfront in their driver team one would assume that would frontload a lot of the improvements as compared to a smaller team working more slowly on optimisations over time.

If they are putting more resources into drivers I would expect fine wine to reduce as they'll tap more of the potential out of the gate.

I can't wait - my only quandry is 6800XT or go all out and ride the wave with 6900XT.

Fine wine doesn't just come from amds driver efforts. Nvidia also abandons driver optimizations for older GPUs much earlier.

 

[Hairydavey]

Eh? The 3080 offers "near 3090 performance" and is around £700 cheaper so why didn't you order one of those?

Because I want more than 10gb of ram. I have a 4k monitor and a VR headset.

 

[clv101]

The 6800 is 250W compared to the 3070's 220W.
The 3070's also a bit cheaper... For 1440p, if I was in the market for a $500 card, which I'm not, the 3070 still looks better IMO.

 

[Participant]

See you again in 6 months when the miners and nVidia pre-order regrets have been satiated and it's actually possible to buy one of these *************.