The Top 7... PR disasters

While it may not be comparable to DVD yet - selling 20,000 units of one title a week isnt so bad for BR (not that HD-DVD is that far behind with their number 1 every week being around 10-12,000) from a quick google to find these figures (The Departed and Casino Royale)

For a brand new format I would say thats "through the roof" but thats just my opinion - but certainly not "talking out of my ***"" and I think someone stated

people on here seem to want to have it both ways - saying that people dont care about hd movies (must be someone buying up huge quantities I guess) when the figures state otherwise, not to mention the huge amounts of hd capable tv's being sold worldwide since prior to World Cup 2006 of which the ps3 is still one of the cheapest ways of viewing said movies

People also have to remember that the most popular br solution (the ps3) isnt even released officially in at least two regions yet - Aus and here, but its still managing to sell a healthy amount of discs on most titles - admittedly its still a pretty limitied choice now

I havent found anything yet - but I would be very interested to see what DVD sales were like at this time period after its release and then a more realistic comparison can be made
 
Mr Latte said:
Forums are for discussion and debate not for slandering others ElRazur
I hope people look back over the last few posts and see where i have attacked you because i have only disagreed with your opinion which im entitled to do.
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Thats what I thought they were for :confused: Also he can out you on ignore just as easy.

Should I have asked for permission to post first?
 
REDD555 said:
Fair enough but remember, that's what they said about floppies, then CD's and now you're saying it about DVD's....
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I feel that when the time comes where games regularly require a lot more capacity friendly media than dvd it will be around the time of the next generation of consoles.
Im not disagreeing with the evolution of the media used, im disagreeing with the timing of it, as the main format for gaming.
 
EVH said:
Fanboys. You know who you are, and it's so pathetic :rolleyes: (particularly ElRazur and Sony Crew who blank peoples opinions)
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You sure your not some kind of fanboy yourself with a coment like this?
 
ElRazur said:
This is why i hate people like you who jump on to band wagons or on-going problem without knowing the background behind it.
So let me guess, you think i picked on mr latte for no reasons? Shame on you.
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No.

I have read the thread. I am agreeing with Latte.

If someone disagrees with Sony's Agenda or expresses their view (or indeed opinion) on the PS3 then it's usually met with a torrent of abuse and some narrow-minded "PS3 hater" reply.

I'm not saying this is what you've said, but maybe you should remember that everyone has the right to an opinion in here.. but when you troll people's posts because they said "PS3" and "Overpriced" in the same sentence then it just lowers the tone.

Darkaber said:
You sure your not some kind of fanboy yourself with a coment like this?
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Nope. You just proved a point though ;)

I own a many sony products, and I tend to buy the PS3 when it comes down in price.
 
sc(+)pe said:
I feel that when the time comes where games regularly require a lot more capacity friendly media than dvd it will be around the time of the next generation of consoles.
Im not disagreeing with the evolution of the media used, im disagreeing with the timing of it, as the main format for gaming.
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What are they going to fill all this extra capacity with? Games developers are struggling to make money now with the massive development times etc for major titles. I think DVD will be with us for a long while yet.
 
Me personally don't like the fanboys that will not accept another rival machine becasue it doesn't say Playstation on it or xbox and there is certainly more Sony fans that seem to be in this camp (maybe due to age). But now there is a few of us with all 3 machines (or soon to be) as gamers and i think that these people will have a more balanced view than somone just slating Sony or MS for its high price or lack of xyz.
 
FrankJH

I cant honestly see joe average being that interested in Blu Ray at the moment. Honestly if it had all the studios behind it and the rental market people would know its a safe technology format. The biggest problem is it hasnt yet proved this. Consumer confidence is low in BD and HD-DVD for that matter. Even Microsoft have publically said they dont know if the HD-DVD format will fail or be successfull but they didnt force customers into buying it.

You do mention some interesting points and this doesnt mean joe average isnt becoming more HiDef aware or an enjoyer of it. Particulary in America where HDTV has been for sale for several years PS3 still hasnt proved to be a high priority entertainment purchase, why?

My own feeling for this is because of HDTV networks and other downloadable services that also allow HD material to be viewed. Thing is the people perhaps have the technology for those services already at home without having to shell out for a new machine or console such as the PS3.

All technology has to hit a price target before it reaches general consumer affordability or where its features outweigh its costs particulary if what it offers makes its price seem like a good purchase. Ask yourself does the press and the current industry say this about the PS3.
A value product it is indeed offering a lot of hardware for the money it costs but is it technology people really want or need? Many forums have discussed what i think is a certainity had the PS3 of come with games on DVD and shipped with a DVD drive at £250 - £299 it would have seen more success. Sony could then of offered a Blu Ray player version at the current price which also played games pressed on DVDs instead using its current Blu Ray drive.
 
FrankJH said:
I was quoting RRP (usually £45-50) on release day


No it means that 180,000 of the 220,000 available in the UK have reputedly been sold - so there are 40,000 in excess to anyone who wants one.

nothing more nothing less
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Which means the demand isn't huge and people are starting to think rather than take on board what the PR chaps say. On the launch of the 360 they were like rocking horse ****, although I'm not 100% sure on how many where actually available.
 
Robert said:
Which means the demand isn't huge and people are starting to think rather than take on board what the PR chaps say. On the launch of the 360 they were like rocking horse ****, although I'm not 100% sure on how many where actually available.
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If i can remember it was 75000 machines.
 
Robert said:
Which means the demand isn't huge and people are starting to think rather than take on board what the PR chaps say. On the launch of the 360 they were like rocking horse ****, although I'm not 100% sure on how many where actually available.
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All i can remeber there was about 300k for the european launch. Sony has said they actually have 300k units now for uk as the intial shipment is at 1.4 million rather than the 1 million for pal regions. Take that as you will, cant find the link though sorry
 
Rojin said:
What are they going to fill all this extra capacity with? Games developers are struggling to make money now with the massive development times etc for major titles. I think DVD will be with us for a long while yet.
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Maybe I came across wrong in my previous post, but what you have said is precisely how I feel. DVD is more than fine for the time being as the media to provide games.
 
Just found something about the Wii uk launch it sold 105k consoles (sold out ) over the first week and the xbox360 did 70K (again sold out) over its first week. I guess the PS3 will be the biggest selling home console launch in the uk, due to how many are available, as the Wiis 105k was the biggest previously, and im sure it will be approx double that amount sold.
 
sc(+)pe said:
Maybe I came across wrong in my previous post, but what you have said is precisely how I feel. DVD is more than fine for the time being as the media to provide games.
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No you're fine, I was agreeing with you. Should've made my post clearer :)
 
Rojin said:
What are they going to fill all this extra capacity with? Games developers are struggling to make money now with the massive development times etc for major titles. I think DVD will be with us for a long while yet.
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I'm not saying DVD is dead by any means,

Just thinking about the next 5 year lifespan of the current consoles, I'm only speculating, but the obvious one I can think of is the Hi Definition FMV interim slots between levels or telling the story for instance? Gonna take more space than the ordinary SD footage no?

Then we go into the HI-Q sounds and music and on it grows.....

Just my prediction that's all, don't mind me, I think we're in the way of something much more serious amongst some folk here :(
 
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