Looks a bit gimmicky as well imo, 3 pcie connectors for what reason exactly? Makes no difference to overclocking the gpu as it has its own limits that come into play.
Got a link to the thread?
n/m found it.
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The Turing RTX 2080 Ti Owners Thread
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Looks a bit gimmicky as well imo, 3 pcie connectors for what reason exactly? Makes no difference to overclocking the gpu as it has its own limits that come into play.
Got a link to the thread?
n/m found it.
Nice. Any issues getting the cooler off or is it much the same as the 1080ti?Yup
One pal, I will probably try to remove it with warming but we shall see...
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No more difficult than any other card and easier than some. This was a Palit.
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Chinese whispers in full swing I see.
That information originated from buildzoid (youtube channel: Actually Hardcore Overclocking) a couple weeks ago. And no, he didn't say that they cut corners. What he said was that yes, the Gaming X Trio does not have the power balancer present on the reference design. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Yes there are certain benefits to having the power balancer, but he didn't know what MSI had done/found/managed to accomplish to lead them to make the decision that they didn't need the power balancer in their custom board. Nvidia's new power balancer is new to the RTX cards. It wasn't on any of their previous cards. So while yes, in theory, it has it's benefits, and yes, it's not present on the Gaming X Trio, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
It's a custom board. Just because they made a design decision that deviates from the reference design (which I thought was the whole point of a custom board), doesn't automatically mean they've cut corners.
The other thing Buildzoid said, was regarding the third power connecter. It's there, it's not a dummy (he showed it in the video), he just had reservations as to how useful it would ultimately be because of the shunts being a limiting factor. On top of that, Nvidia heavily limits how much power the card can ultimately draw in the bios, so how useful that third power connector is in the end, is currently unknown.
Those were the only 2 points Buildzoid questioned. "Questioned" being the operative word, because in that video, even he admitted that he didn't know why MSI opted not to include the power balancer and he didn't actually have a Gaming X Trio to test and see if there was any effect at all. And he "Questioned" how useful the 3rd power connector would be due to the shunts (or was it the fuses? It was a couple weeks ago since I watched it, I can't remember every detail) MSI used and the power limits enforced by the card BIOS.
You really have to pay attention when buildzoid talks about components because he has a tendency sometimes to talk in absolutes (especially when he starts using sarcasm, which is often) even when he admits he doesn't actually have enough information to definitively assess a particular point of interest. He also has a tendency of too often talking in circles and going off in multiple tangents about different topics then jumping back. And if you're not paying attention, you can get lost in those tangents and then end up not understanding what the original point he was trying to make in the first place. He knows his stuff. But he's not always the best at getting that information across in a way for people with little component level knowledge to understand. The result, is bad, inaccurate snippets of information from his videos being relayed and spread across the web by people who have no idea what they're talking about, have no understanding of the subject matter and end up passing the wrong information. So be careful with that.
In the end, if you're really worried about the Gaming X Trio not having the load balancer, then get the Duke instead. The Duke uses the Nvidia reference design board. And don't assume that the other custom (non-reference PCB) cards from Asus, Zotac and others will automatically have that power balancer, because we don't know. We only found out about the Gaming X Trio because a reviewer (I think it was TechPower Up) posted high resolution images of the Gaming X Trio's PCB in their review and Buildzoid used those pics for his component level analysis. We haven't really seen any of the other custom (non-reference PCB) cards from other manufacturers analyzed yet. So don't assume anything.
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Got it installed last night, no major issues. Driver took a minute to reset and then everything was plain sailing. As expected, the 2080Ti benches slightly lower than my two 1080s in SLI, or about the same with a slight overclock applied.
Haven't tried any 2D gaming yet, but Project Cars 2 in VR runs like an absolute wet dream at mostly high settings than one of my 1080s ever did at medium/low.
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Saw it off with a piece of A4 what I have done with my Msi cards and always works.
Have tried heating them before and they are difficult to remove by peeling. As they are extremely fragile and tear very easily.
Nice, I’ll defo try that then thank you! Sure the cards won’t have any issues regardless but will be blocking the two when the new build is done! It is recessed in to the back but will see!
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I've called the (competitor) shop where I've preordered the Duke (same place I've already bought an EK Vector + bp) and they've assured me there won't be any warranty issues whatsoever, in case you don't know, MSI won't directly rma your vga so you'll have to run it thru the shop you bought it.
One only advice here, test it for a week or so on air cause they won't change it within 30 days for any issue if the seal is broken.
But I repeat, rma wise, the vga goes to MSI and there are no (tampering seal) issues here (except you damage it when you install the block).
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Hi guys. Thinking about purchasing a 2080Ti for 1440p 144Hz monitor, but I've come across a couple of reviews that say 2080Ti is overkill for this resolution, and the gains from 1080Ti are not even close from those at 4K. What do you think?
If you ask MSI They say different... the sticker does say warranty void if removed so not much you can argue with.
It will beat anything else out there but do you really want to pay more than £1k?
Whatever you have that needs 144hz could probably manage with a 1080ti
Spend the RTX tax on your kids or Something
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The Strix cards retains the power balancing.
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There are a handful of games where I can't reach more than 90-100 fps already, such as Tpmb Raider, PUBG or Battlefield 1.
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If you can afford it and justify the price to yourself, go for it.
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Fair enough. I'm not clued up on every variant of custom non-reference boards and which custom non-reference boards retain the power balancer and which ones don't. In that statement I was mainly pointing out that if he wanted an MSI card but wanted one that still has the power balancer, he could look at the Duke, because that card uses a reference design board. So the Duke will have the power balancer.
Depends on the game really. BF1 is completely maxed @ 1440p 144Hz, but there are games that won't be, and the 2080Ti will do better than a 1080Ti. 1080Ti is a much better value proposition though, and does exceptionally well in most games @1440p.
Not overkill at all.
If you want to run a 144Hz monitor @1440p not even a 2080 Ti is going to be able to deliver the frames with very high settings in some of the latest games.
Make sure you use a very quick CPU too as clockspeed is important to avoid bottlenecking at 144 fps or higher.
I mainly play siege and my 1080 ti struggles to top out my 165hz/1440p panel without a lot of graphical concessions. Some maps result in a high average fps but others at the same medium settings it struggles.
According to Hardware Unboxed the 2080ti averaged 120 ish fps on the siege benchmark at 1440p/ultra so even that was unable to monster its way to a constant and desirable 144fps.
According to Hardware Unboxed the 2080ti averaged 120 ish fps on the siege benchmark at 1440p/ultra so even that was unable to monster its way to a constant and desirable 144fps.