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I was thinking of popping into the UK Ecigstore in Wembley. It's only 7 miles from me and is open till 5pm today. On street view it looks like I'd be able to park in front of the shop behind some gates, anyone confirm? Read some terrible things about them though, such as selling fake batteries. Not that I'm buying batteries, just wanted to visit them and see if they can help with my subtank mini RBA. Anyone have recent experience?
 
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Anyone here buy premixed VG/Nic base? If so who do you use?

I don't know if I'm confusing my self or not, some places state they add additional nicotine to compensate for flavoring at 20%, some don't say anything at all. For example, grey haze list their 3mg at 3.6mg, with a 20% mix taking it down to 3mg, yet vapor depot list theirs at 3mg but state once mixed at 20% the nic reduces to 2.4mg. Others just list '3mg' with little additional info.

I'm leaning towards the grey haze stuff, but its twice the price of everything else I can find.
 
I was out lastnight and had one of my aromamizers on my DX200 with Element SW... full tank, did not take a vape on it all night as i also had my crown and was in a bar with none smokers so only had a few toots on the crown going to and from the bar, now in the crown i had the RBA which i know can sometimes leak if the wick is not right, so i placed it upright on a window ledge when i went to bed to make sure it would not leak...

Got up next morning and the crown had not leaked one drop, my DX had been in a leather sigelei 100 mod belt holder on my jeans on the floor.... it was empty and the bottom left leg of my jeans was soaked in nice strawberry and cream juice... i was shocked as i have not had a leak from this tank before...

So i have just stripped out the coils, wrapped two fresh ones and re wicked but with a bit more cotton, seams i did not have enough over the deck holes i guess...
Gutted that ive wasted 6ml of very good juice.
 
Yep Rilot and Tweak, same old boring story I'm afraid, the bloody RBA connection :p

Tweak, found my soldering iron but not working, sigh. So I'm popping into Wembley to see if the guys there can try my RBA on their mods. Anyway, I've been in touch with Kanger on their forums, explaining the dilemma and have also been posting on the FT forums. This thread on FT details everything I've done including Kanger correnspondence, if you fancy a bit of a read. I'm Danny55 on there.

https://www.fasttech.com/forums/2390700/t/1894705/does-this-fit-the-subtank-mini/1

Long story short, it's been suggested to me by someone on FT that the reason the RBA worked when it was tried on another mod at the Liberty flights shop when I tried to return it, is probably because of a fixed 510 pin on his mod v floating pin on my Sigelei 50w. Because of a short pin on the RBA, it needs a fixed 510 pin on the mod for the subtank AFC to push against.

"I believe that the kanger box has a fixed 510 pin and your Sigelei has a floating 510 pin. When the guy at the shop screwed your Subtank onto the kanger box the fixed 510 on the mod would have pushed the 510 pin on the Subtank up to make contact, but your Sigelei with it's floating pin would not have if the tension on the 510 was greater on the Subtank than the tension of the 510 on the Sigelei. "
 
Anyone here buy premixed VG/Nic base? If so who do you use?

I don't know if I'm confusing my self or not, some places state they add additional nicotine to compensate for flavoring at 20%, some don't say anything at all. For example, grey haze list their 3mg at 3.6mg, with a 20% mix taking it down to 3mg, yet vapor depot list theirs at 3mg but state once mixed at 20% the nic reduces to 2.4mg. Others just list '3mg' with little additional info.

I'm leaning towards the grey haze stuff, but its twice the price of everything else I can find.

You are only every going to get a rough nic content if you do it by just mixing flavouring into a nic base. The way most people will do it is buy 54 or 72mg base (you'd pick VG base) then use VG + flavouring to get it down to the nic level they want. If I was going for 100% VG I'd measure out the nic and the flavouring and add them to the bottle then just top the bottle up with VG.

Depends how set you are on getting the nic level bang on.
 
I'm not dead set on the nic level, I just want to know what I'm dealing with and what my end product will likely be. I didn't want to, for example, buy 3.6mg marked up with 20% dilution in mind and then end up only using a 5 or 10% dilute and get something stronger then I intended :)

I'm more in it for the easy/lazy route, as I'll be mixing it up at work and don't want multiple bottles laying around the place :D
 
It will be around 3mg with most flavour %s if you buy the grey haze base. It will never be more than 3.6mg/ml So you are never going to get more nicotine by adding flavouring. So say you added 5% flavour the nic would be about 3.4 mg/ml.

It sounds like it will work out for you imo I'd never done the maths for sure low amounts, seems it doesn't vary the final juice as much as the numbers get lower.
 
Cheers I'll get some ordered :)

Hopefully experimenting with flavor % will give me some tastier juices. I have 12 bottles on my desk at the moment, around 7 all taste the same (like burn't pastry) and a couple to me have little to no flavor at all. I think my taste buds are knackered tbh as my mrs and people I work with can smell the flavours just fine when I exhale.

Bring costs down too, at the moment I'm spending near £50-60 a month on liquid, I barely spent that on tobacco a month. Think if I can make 200ml for under £20 I'm laughing as that would do me a month easily.

Grey haze are out of stock, going to go with 250ml of this: https://vapourdepot.com/product/diy/pgvg/vg-nicotine-base/

Ordered, £36 for the 250ml base, 40ml of concentrates, some dropper bottles and syringes. To clarify and to please my stupidity, this is now as simple as 8ml of this base liquid + 2ml of concentrate (based at 20%) = 10ml of liquid?
 
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Yes it is as simply as that. I've been mixing my own for years now. I've never tasted most of the juice talked about in this thread as I just will not pay the kind of money they look for in ejuice.

Have you tried cleaning your tongue btw? A mix of VG and coffee seems to make mine gather gunk, I use a tongue scraper when I brush my teeth but you can just clean it by brushing it (makes it more likely to make you gag) Sounds crazy but it works for me.
 
Cheers I'll get some ordered :)

Hopefully experimenting with flavor % will give me some tastier juices. I have 12 bottles on my desk at the moment, around 7 all taste the same (like burn't pastry) and a couple to me have little to no flavor at all. I think my taste buds are knackered tbh as my mrs and people I work with can smell the flavours just fine when I exhale.

Bring costs down too, at the moment I'm spending near £50-60 a month on liquid, I barely spent that on tobacco a month. Think if I can make 200ml for under £20 I'm laughing as that would do me a month easily.

Grey haze are out of stock, going to go with 250ml of this: https://vapourdepot.com/product/diy/pgvg/vg-nicotine-base/

Ordered, £36 for the 250ml base, 40ml of concentrates, some dropper bottles and syringes. To clarify and to please my stupidity, this is now as simple as 8ml of this base liquid + 2ml of concentrate (based at 20%) = 10ml of liquid?
Exactly that if you want to mix with less mess more accuracy buy a cheap set of digital scales off ebay,
 
Hey all

Looking for a new mod to go with my sub tank mini.
I have an eleaf istick 50 but it's been playing up lately.
Only looking to spend around the same, £50 or so.

Any suggestions?

Also I make my own coils but a lot of the time the first tank of juice tastes quite 'soapy'
Any ideas what that could be?

JB
 
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Oooo K. So it seems that the Triton 2 leaks and leaks like mad.
I took my two new Triton 2s off their mods last night a put them in the atty stand. I just picked one up and noticed it was empty and all the juice was all over the stand. Checked the other one and same issue. I never had this with the Triton 1s.
This is with 100% VG too.

Not sure where they are leaking to be honest. It could either be them wicking too much and then dripping down in to the base or it could be a leak in the seal between the coil and the base. Either way, I will see if they do the same tonight and if they do, they'll be going back.
 
Hey all

Looking for a new mod to go with my sub tank mini.
I have an eleaf istick 50 but it's been playing up lately.
Only looking to spend around the same, £50 or so.

Any suggestions?

Also I make my own coils but a lot of the time the first tank of juice tastes quite 'soapy'
Any ideas what that could be?

JB

Evic VTC Mini
Superb little mod. Firmware upgradable and supports titanium, nickel, and stainless steel in TC mode.
 
I'm not dead set on the nic level, I just want to know what I'm dealing with and what my end product will likely be. I didn't want to, for example, buy 3.6mg marked up with 20% dilution in mind and then end up only using a 5 or 10% dilute and get something stronger then I intended :)

I'm more in it for the easy/lazy route, as I'll be mixing it up at work and don't want multiple bottles laying around the place :D

If you aren't too fussed about varying nicotine levels, and want max VG, the cheap, and still simple, way to do it IMO would be to buy a bottle of Darkstar nicotine (£16.99 for 250ml 72mg/ml), and a big bottle of lubrisolve VG (£16.99 for 5 litres). Then empty 250ml of the VG out into the bottle you'll have left over after this month, and pour the nicotine into the 5l jug, give a real good shake, and you'll have 5 litres of 3.6mg for £34. Seems like a lot but you can just buy and forget about it for a couple of years then. Just shake, and refill your 250ml bottle with the VG/nic mix when it gets empty - this is much easier than trying to take a little bit out of the big jug, and it stops you opening the jug up loads of times so the nic in the jug won't oxidize as much. I personally don't do this because I'm mixing for friends too, so need to have seperate nic and base, as well as varying PG/VG ratios.

Then the only cost is your concentrates. I've only tried two brands, TFA and FA - FA is definitely cheaper, since the 1.5x cost is offset by the fact that most flavours are 3x as potent and FA's site offers six 10ml concentrates for the price of five, however I have found they require a little longer to steep, TFA is definitely easier to work with. Naturally if you find a flavour you love, you can bulk buy concentrates too to really bring your costs down.

One thing I will say is don't be put off if your mixes don't taste great at first, if you're mixing max VG, in my experience *all* juices need a good steep to develop. I mix up 50ml bottles, but I have about 5 mixes on the go, this means I'm not slamming each one before it has a chance to develop, and I avoid getting too sick of a flavour. Currently have a black forest gateaux, banana choc, lychee milk and honey, banana cookie, and blueberry apple pie with cinnamon+custard.
 
Evic VTC Mini
Superb little mod. Firmware upgradable and supports titanium, nickel, and stainless steel in TC mode.

There are a lot of controls on that!!!
Is it easy enough to use?
All I do with mine is set the wattage to get a good hit and I'm good to go.

JB
 
Yes it is as simply as that. I've been mixing my own for years now. I've never tasted most of the juice talked about in this thread as I just will not pay the kind of money they look for in ejuice.

Have you tried cleaning your tongue btw? A mix of VG and coffee seems to make mine gather gunk, I use a tongue scraper when I brush my teeth but you can just clean it by brushing it (makes it more likely to make you gag) Sounds crazy but it works for me.

Could be worth a punt, definitely noticed it more the last month or so, flavors that used to make my mouth water now taste of nothing, I do mix up my flavors every few days too to try avoid fatigue.

Exactly that if you want to mix with less mess more accuracy buy a cheap set of digital scales off ebay,

Cheers, I think I actually already have a few sets, well the mrs does from many failed diets :o I'll give them a try after I'm happy with my mixes :)

If you aren't too fussed about varying nicotine levels, and want max VG, the cheap, and still simple, way to do it IMO would be to buy a bottle of Darkstar nicotine (£16.99 for 250ml 72mg/ml), and a big bottle of lubrisolve VG (£16.99 for 5 litres). Then empty 250ml of the VG out into the bottle you'll have left over after this month, and pour the nicotine into the 5l jug, give a real good shake, and you'll have 5 litres of 3.6mg for £34. Seems like a lot but you can just buy and forget about it for a couple of years then. Just shake, and refill your 250ml bottle with the VG/nic mix when it gets empty - this is much easier than trying to take a little bit out of the big jug, and it stops you opening the jug up loads of times so the nic in the jug won't oxidize as much. I personally don't do this because I'm mixing for friends too, so need to have seperate nic and base, as well as varying PG/VG ratios.

Then the only cost is your concentrates. I've only tried two brands, TFA and FA - FA is definitely cheaper, since the 1.5x cost is offset by the fact that most flavours are 3x as potent and FA's site offers six 10ml concentrates for the price of five, however I have found they require a little longer to steep, TFA is definitely easier to work with. Naturally if you find a flavour you love, you can bulk buy concentrates too to really bring your costs down.

One thing I will say is don't be put off if your mixes don't taste great at first, if you're mixing max VG, in my experience *all* juices need a good steep to develop. I mix up 50ml bottles, but I have about 5 mixes on the go, this means I'm not slamming each one before it has a chance to develop, and I avoid getting too sick of a flavour. Currently have a black forest gateaux, banana choc, lychee milk and honey, banana cookie, and blueberry apple pie with cinnamon+custard.

Thats quite a comforting idea, having that much ready to be mixed stored away, will certainly look into that once I'm clear of the first batch. I have cases at work an a room with no natural light that i'll be steeping in :)

Currently just going to be using Vapours Oven's man flu concentrate, probably my fave flavor at the moment :D
 
There are a lot of controls on that!!!
Is it easy enough to use?
All I do with mine is set the wattage to get a good hit and I'm good to go.

JB

Same number of controls, there are just some more advanced settings with certain button combinations. If all you're after is a variable wattage device, the controls are exactly the same :)
 
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