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Anyone else tried the 'BFB straight outta the toaster' Juice by 'Flawless' yet? I believe it's French pastry, whipped cream, maple syrup and strawberries. One of the most complex blends I've ever vaped. Get a completely different flavour from every tank I put it in and on my cricket with a dual coil build it's one of the best strawberry flavours I've ever had! 240ml for £43 too! Absolute bargain! Never been fan of the other Flawless juices but this ones an absolute winner.
 
Anyone else tried the 'BFB straight outta the toaster' Juice by 'Flawless' yet? I believe it's French pastry, whipped cream, maple syrup and strawberries. One of the most complex blends I've ever vaped. Get a completely different flavour from every tank I put it in and on my cricket with a dual coil build it's one of the best strawberry flavours I've ever had! 240ml for £43 too! Absolute bargain! Never been fan of the other Flawless juices but this ones an absolute winner.

Don't expect your build to last very long with that liquid. Most definitely Flavour West's Cake Batter Dip concentrate, which contains a high amount of Fructose.

240ml for £43 considered cheap? Lmao.
 
Don't expect your build to last very long with that liquid. Most definitely Flavour West's Cake Batter Dip concentrate, which contains a high amount of Fructose.

240ml for £43 considered cheap? Lmao.

Yep, had to recoil my atty 3 times in the last week. Not a big deal though. What's the point in vaping if your not enjoying the flavour?

That is cheap, especially for a 'premium' juice. When you consider that 60ml of the normal 'Flawless' would cost you half as much and 20-30ml of any other would cost you about the same. Don't know where you're getting your juice from if you don't consider that a bargain.
 
Got my first order of Ace of Vapez juices in yesterday... tried about 20 in a day using a dripper and damn they make some really awesome juices :D

Yoda Blood, Yoda Snot & Yoda P were my favourites.

I know how to make Snot & Blood, but I'm still working on Yoda P.

I have a feeling it's TFA Philippine Mango and something else, can't quite put my finger on it.

Yep, had to recoil my atty 3 times in the last week. Not a big deal though. What's the point in vaping if your not enjoying the flavour?

That is cheap, especially for a 'premium' juice. When you consider that 60ml of the normal 'Flawless' would cost you half as much and 20-30ml of any other would cost you about the same. Don't know where you're getting your juice from if you don't consider that a bargain.

I've been making my own juice now for over a year, I sell 100ml to my mates for £10 - I make it up for about £6-7 so I'm making a bit of cash on the side.

If you're happy spending £43 on 240ml's of 'premium juice' then be my guest, but I think that if people saw how easy it was to create/mix your own, they'd soon jump ship.

PLENTY of resources online for clone recipes, I've just found two for Flawless.

I'll probably get some stick for saying this in here cos I've mentioned it before, but vaping is still about harm reduction in my eyes, so if I can do my utmost to use concentrates that have zero 'nasties' in them, I'll do so. Shouts to FlavourArt!

You definitely wouldn't catch me vaping ANY Flavour West concentrates, considering the fact they use sugars in them - not artificial sweeteners like Stevia or Sucralose.
 
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Awesome... those 3 are some of my favourites too.

Is there any chance you would trust me the recipe so that I can have a go please?

I'm also quite fond of...

Blue Loo, Red Wolf Astaire, Jaccs Custard, Yoda Babies, Yoda Sweat, Black Ice Lemonade, Sherbert Orange and the banana one

I really don't like Fresh Orange, which is a shame as it smells wonderful.
 
You definitely wouldn't catch me vaping ANY Flavour West concentrates, considering the fact they use sugars in them - not artificial sweeteners like Stevia or Sucralose.

Excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject, my knowledge on the details of juices is still quite limited.

But certainly for ingesting, that would be the other way around. Stevia and Sucralose are incredibly harmful to the human body & sugar is the better option. However I realise that by inhaling, that may be a different story - I seem to recall something dodgy about inhaling sugar vapour but I can't quite place it.
 
@Gee

I made some of the Pink Lemonade you recommended and the flavour is great although even with leaving the lid off for 48 hours the Sweet Tangerine is still extremely dry/harsh, here's to hoping the harshness goes away :D
 
Awesome... those 3 are some of my favourites too.

Is there any chance you would trust me the recipe so that I can have a go please?

I'm also quite fond of...

Blue Loo, Red Wolf Astaire, Jaccs Custard, Yoda Babies, Yoda Sweat, Black Ice Lemonade, Sherbert Orange and the banana one

I really don't like Fresh Orange, which is a shame as it smells wonderful.

Here you go mate - http://www.lediypourlesnuls.com/?s=ace+of+vapez

E: Forgot to say, it doesn't mention which Pear Drops concentrate you need for Yoda Blood - it's actually Flavour Art.

Excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject, my knowledge on the details of juices is still quite limited.

But certainly for ingesting, that would be the other way around. Stevia and Sucralose are incredibly harmful to the human body & sugar is the better option. However I realise that by inhaling, that may be a different story - I seem to recall something dodgy about inhaling sugar vapour but I can't quite place it.

The reason your coils/wick only lasts a couple days at most? The juice you're vaping most probably contains sugar.

Sugar caramelises at ~340F, but burns at ~350F - both of these temperatures are common in vaping. When sugar burns it can turn into acetaldehyde - a known carcinogen.

Now if you're happy with that, by all means vape away! But that's the main reason why I switched to making my own juice. I know EXACTLY what concentrates I'm using, and I can use concentrates that do not contain any of this nasty business. I haven't bought ANY store bought juice in about a year and a half now.

I know you're probably saying "yeah it's still better than smoking". Oh it is, I'm not denying that. But as I've mentioned before, if I can create e-liquids without using concentrates containing either Diacetyl, Acetoin, Acetyl Propionyl or any form of sugar/sweetener, I will do.
 
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@Gee

I made some of the Pink Lemonade you recommended and the flavour is great although even with leaving the lid off for 48 hours the Sweet Tangerine is still extremely dry/harsh, here's to hoping the harshness goes away :D

IIRC Sweet Tangerine has some form of alcohol in it, they made an RF (Reduced Flashpoint) version that has less of it in - may explain why it's still a little harsh.

I don't recall mine being rough on the throat though, make sure you're giving your concentrates a really good shake before using them.

Only thing I can recommend is remove the lid again, squeeze the bottle say 10 times to let more oxygen into it, replace the cap and giving it a shake - repeat this for a couple of days. Glad you're enjoying mixing though, man!
 
Thanks for the link and explanation - that makes sense :) I knew there was something about it, just couldn't put my finger on the memory.

No worries!

I'm not sure on what stores/vendors in Switzerland sell e-liquid concentrates, but I'm pretty sure Vapable will ship to you, if you wanted to get into mixing your own.
 
Got my first order of Ace of Vapez juices in yesterday... tried about 20 in a day using a dripper and damn they make some really awesome juices :D

Please give the 'Strawberry U'Donut' from their Candy Corner range a go, managed to pick up 70ml of it for 10 quid at the expo. In a serpent mini with a 1.2ohm clapton, it's incredible. Tastes like an actual strawberry donut as us brits know them to be, none of this super sweet strawberry donut american juice, which is nice don't get me wrong, but a real doughut :D

Interestingly, the same juice in my Nebox (temp mod until the new Pico's + serpent minis arrive), tastes completely different and nowhere near as nice.
 
Thanks - will check them out. Also have the option to have someone in the UK forward to me.

Do you know of any decent wholesalers? I can setup a trade account...

Not too sure on wholesalers, probably best to get it direct from the manufacturers?

Please give the 'Strawberry U'Donut' from their Candy Corner range a go, managed to pick up 70ml of it for 10 quid at the expo. In a serpent mini with a 1.2ohm clapton, it's incredible. Tastes like an actual strawberry donut as us brits know them to be, none of this super sweet strawberry donut american juice, which is nice don't get me wrong, but a real doughut :D

Interestingly, the same juice in my Nebox (temp mod until the new Pico's + serpent minis arrive), tastes completely different and nowhere near as nice.

Currently got a 4mm 24g coil in my Serpent Mini although I did pick up some various clapton wires the other day so I'm looking at using some of that in my Mini - what's your current build?
 
Still waiting on my Serpent Mini from FT ordered on the 10th June, Hoping to have it soon.. It's been a little slower than usual experiences but nevermind.

IIRC Sweet Tangerine has some form of alcohol in it, they made an RF (Reduced Flashpoint) version that has less of it in - may explain why it's still a little harsh.

I don't recall mine being rough on the throat though, make sure you're giving your concentrates a really good shake before using them.

Only thing I can recommend is remove the lid again, squeeze the bottle say 10 times to let more oxygen into it, replace the cap and giving it a shake - repeat this for a couple of days. Glad you're enjoying mixing though, man!


Have been doing that but will keep it up for another week or so, perhaps it will suit a tank better than the dripper.

Yup been mixing up Red Astair and Pinkman mainly on the DIY front (Not much talent needed) but have experience quite abit with it in the past, have some Milkman clone steeping over a couple of day's it has certainly improved.
 
Still waiting on my Serpent Mini from FT ordered on the 10th June, Hoping to have it soon.. It's been a little slower than usual experiences but nevermind.

You using 17track.net to check it? Probably due any day now providing it's been dispatched? Check your FT account mate!
 
Please give the 'Strawberry U'Donut' from their Candy Corner range a go, managed to pick up 70ml of it for 10 quid at the expo. In a serpent mini with a 1.2ohm clapton, it's incredible. Tastes like an actual strawberry donut as us brits know them to be, none of this super sweet strawberry donut american juice, which is nice don't get me wrong, but a real doughut :D

Interestingly, the same juice in my Nebox (temp mod until the new Pico's + serpent minis arrive), tastes completely different and nowhere near as nice.

Their Lemon U'Donut is quite interesting... I'm not sold on it... it definitely tastes like a lemon donut though :)

And yes... that happens with a lot of tank/juice combos... I have some juices which are sublime in one tank and horrible in another.

Vamp Vape Heisenberg is absolutely amazing in an iJoy Limitless. But I can't stand it in a Toptank.

Vamp Vape Attraction is awesome in a Toptank, but I can't stand it in anything with more power as the aniseed overwhelms everything else.

Plenty more too... like TAoV Yoda Snot is great in a TFV4, but I haven't found another tank I like it in yet.
 
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