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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.
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A Fury X to a 56 doesn't look that great either..
Its not a move I would make, I would want more of a jump in performance.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_56/31.html
That's why the vega chip is bigger, they added 3.9 billion transistors, the vast majority if not all of these are to increase clock speeds. Vega really does seem like a modified Fiji core.
Just a typo
The Vega 56 has 3584 shaders.
Got you ..but i dislike this kind of practice even if its an error as its misleading to a buyer who is unaware ....Or am i just being fussy here ...i Dislike if any supermarket or any shop sells a product with the wrong information ...very misleading
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Makes sense if you can sell and then buy for similar prices. Bit of hassle but Vega will have the better support over time, they cant show that perspective so easily in a review. My main reason for Vega was the development aspect, as they intend to concentrate on newer cards mostly
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Each to their own, but to me it makes more sense to just go for a more powerful card.
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Ain't gonna pay £380+ for a 56...not unless it could unlock to a 64 like some 290 to 290x in the pass.
I'm just pointing out that Vega isn't some massively new architecture with immature drivers, it's basically just an overclocked Fury with 8GB and some other very minor improvements.
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It could have been either or both as I've watched & read there's and just about every other tester/reviewers Vega stuff I could find since Vega went live.
At the time I was shocked to hear a reviewer admit that that's what he does because it means we can't trust that his numbers reflect the current performance that can be gotton on the cards he uses to compare against whichever new card he's reviewing, I bet Nvidia love em though.
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Stands to reason though given Vega is GCN 5.0
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I looked up this AMD Finewine - I thought it was a legitimate thing, like a driver team at AMD who specializes in getting the best out of the hardware. Loads of forums mention it but never seem to provide proof of their work. Nope. It's literally a meme that a lot of AMD supporters take seriously. I'm truly baffled
The Fine Wine moniker needs putting down like a lame horse, Raja brought it up at Capiscan and Cream when he as good as asked reviewers to not use it and even gave an alternative asking people to instead call it "Our user promise".
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It'd be doing better out the gate if it was. I'm hoping we'll see a significant improvement in Vega peformance during the first 6-12 months just like we did with the Fiji cards but more so due to Vega drivers seeming to be a mess in a lot of older titles that haven't gotten day one optimisations.
True but for a long time people were convinced this was a brand new architecture, when its yet another iteration of gcn with (for some reason) very unpolished drivers. That's what makes me wonder, if its just another gcn iteration surely the drivers should have a firm foundation by this point?
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AMD driver guy can only do so much man, give him a break!!!
A carbon fibre cat o 9 tails would make his work rate improve!
True but for a long time people were convinced this was a brand new architecture, when its yet another iteration of gcn with (for some reason) very unpolished drivers. That's what makes me wonder, if its just another gcn iteration surely the drivers should have a firm foundation by this point?
Yeah all indicates that this a Fiji shrink with extra features. Well people haven't really stopped to think "are the drivers really that bad?" (except for early bugs of course) performance wise ? Meaning that the performance we are seeing at the moment on current games may not get much better than that on those said games, now for upcoming AAA releases I do expect the driver team to spend a bit more time on Vega optimization for those titles. I'm mostly waiting to see how Vega does on AAA games that are to come, so games released after Vega
Maybe some of the older titles might get a few % improvements overtime due to some driver optimizations implemented for the new games that share the same game engine as some older title, so would be trickled down "easy" on the older titles.
True but for a long time people were convinced this was a brand new architecture, when its yet another iteration of gcn with (for some reason) very unpolished drivers. That's what makes me wonder, if its just another gcn iteration surely the drivers should have a firm foundation by this point?
In AMA, Raja, mentioned that they where having difficulty creating the drivers for Vega (can't remember his exact wording); maybe the changes in VEGA make it more different than we are aware of (They technically call it NCU).
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