Ah that's what I was after. If I can get any of this discounted first stock I think they will have a sale....tired of having to dial things down at 1600p on a 970!
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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.
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Ah that's what I was after. If I can get any of this discounted first stock I think they will have a sale....tired of having to dial things down at 1600p on a 970!
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Take it with a pinch of salt and wait for third party cards. The VEGA cards respond extremely well to undervolting and overclocking. I have no idea why AMD shipped them overvolted and with a weak cooler.
They are not over volted that is the required voltage to cover all scenarios and workloads. It's not like AMD don't know what they are doing and suddenly a load of amateur 'experts' have 'unlocked' it. Just because in certain scenarios one sample of a card may respond to under volting (at that moment in time) does not mean for one moment that everyone should do it.
Bear in mind that's a stock 1070fe and doesn't take into account overclocking.
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way im looking at it is this, decent overclocked 1070 beats out Vega 56 and it's likely cheaper, cooler and uses less power. I want Vega but I'm really struggling to convince myself it's worth it over a 1070.
Yep, people shouldn't assume that every Vega will undervolt like a champ, as he said they know what they are doing, the initial yields probably require that much voltage as an average, plus a bit of headroom (hence why almost every chip (not necessarily GPUs that has a clock and is unlocked can be overclocked). I wouldn't be surprised if over the 56 and 64s lifetime the voltage will be revised a bit.
Undervolted Vega56 uses less power than 1080FE and is faster, sometimes with big margin so if you cant get 1070 with really good price, there is not relly point going 1070 way. Ofcourse maybe not every Vega chip is not going to undevolt as much. If you dont want to play with voltages and such then 1070OC would be obvious choise. https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...vega-56-und-vega-64-im-undervolting-test.html
I looked up this AMD Finewine - I thought it was a legitimate thing, like a driver team at AMD who specializes in getting the best out of the hardware. Loads of forums mention it but never seem to provide proof of their work. Nope. It's literally a meme that a lot of AMD supporters take seriously. I'm truly baffled 
I looked up this AMD Finewine - I thought it was a legitimate thing, like a driver team at AMD who specializes in getting the best out of the hardware. Loads of forums mention it but never seem to provide proof of their work. Nope. It's literally a meme that a lot of AMD supporters take seriously. I'm truly baffled
Yep a meme, but that AMD endorsed on their Siggraph slides ... lol
This.
You can also undervolt & overclock pascal and draw less power and get more performance, but that isn't the design parameters for the chips.
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/08/25/amd_radeon_rx_vega_56_versus_r9_fury/1
vega 56 vs fury strix
vega 56 vs fury strix
Also worth a thought, the 56 drivers are nowhere optimized as the Furys so the gap will widen in time, we'll I'm hoping so
https://ibb.co/ekUru5 Vega 56 prices in Sweden RX 64 was 5090-
It's basically the same chip though, the extra performance has come from the ~50% increase in clock speed.
Tell that to the people who discovered the early power and performance problems with Polaris
I agree though its likely the voltage is set that way to cover the spectrum of expected ASIC quality and usage scenarios and its quite likely you will find a range of cards from those that won't undervolt by any significant amount without instability through to those that can get quite a big voltage drop - GF 14nm product still seems to produce quite a big variance in quality which is possibly partly why the stock voltage is relatively high.
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I looked up this AMD Finewine - I thought it was a legitimate thing, like a driver team at AMD who specializes in getting the best out of the hardware. Loads of forums mention it but never seem to provide proof of their work. Nope. It's literally a meme that a lot of AMD supporters take seriously. I'm truly baffled
Who needs an extra 10-15% now, when you can have it in 6-9 months
Taken from oc site...how come the 56 has that many shaders ?
Radeon RX VEGA 56
The AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 series of graphics cards are based on AMD’s “Vega” GPU architecture and offer 56 Next-Gen Compute Units (NCUs) and a total of 4.096 shaders. The RX Vega 56 also comes equipped with 8 GB of High Bandwidth 2nd generation Memory (HBM2) with a 2048-bit memory bus interface. AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 graphics cards are designed from the ground up for gaming in Virtual Reality (VR) and at 4K/UHD resolutions.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-vega-56
Radeon RX VEGA 56
The AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 series of graphics cards are based on AMD’s “Vega” GPU architecture and offer 56 Next-Gen Compute Units (NCUs) and a total of 4.096 shaders. The RX Vega 56 also comes equipped with 8 GB of High Bandwidth 2nd generation Memory (HBM2) with a 2048-bit memory bus interface. AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 graphics cards are designed from the ground up for gaming in Virtual Reality (VR) and at 4K/UHD resolutions.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-vega-56
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Wtf, theres no way id go from a Fury to a 56.
