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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.


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Indeed, they went up at £469 / £479 etc yesterday, Gibbo did say in the original post re Tuesdays stock that they'd be this , not the £450. Is this OC UK adding a little on or AMD this time , who knows, the saga continues.

Speculation but if the shipment is priced in EUR and not USD that could explain it as our currency took a beating last week against the Euro.

Still a good deal for the Vega 64 tbf as I spy the Vega 56 up for £500 'elsewhere'.
 
Destiny 2.

Vega performance at 1080P can only be described as very bad for its price, the Air Cooled 64 is slower than the GTX 1070, a good margin slower.

It catches up and overtakes it slightly at 1440P and 4K but its still 10% + down on the GTX 1080 which costs the same money and is way more power efficient.

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Destiny 2.

Vega performance at 1080P can only be described as very bad for its price, the Air Cooled 64 is slower than the GTX 1070, a good margin slower.

It catches up and overtakes it slightly at 1440P and 4K but its still 10% + down on the GTX 1080 which costs the same money and is way more power efficient.


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Destiny 2 is a gameworks title and Nvidia are even giving away a free copy of the game with a purchase of a new Pascal GPU. So are you really surprised by these results. I'm presuming it's a DX11 title as well so Nvidia can tweak it to within an inch of it's life to work flawlessly on pascal. I'd be more surprised if this wasn't the case LOL.

Also do you think I'd be disappointed with 106 fps at 1440p which puts it within my freesync range of 144hz? No stuttering or tearing and it'll be buttery smooth thank you. You need to put this into real world perspective. Heck at 1080p a 1060 & 580 are more than capable cards so don't really see your point TBH.
 
Destiny 2 is a gameworks title and Nvidia are even giving away a free copy of the game with a purchase of a new Pascal GPU. So are you really surprised by these results. I'm presuming it's a DX11 title as well so Nvidia can tweak it to within an inch of it's life to work flawlessly on pascal. I'd be more surprised if this wasn't the case LOL.

Also do you think I'd be disappointed with 106 fps at 1440p which puts it within my freesync range of 144hz? No stuttering or tearing and it'll be buttery smooth thank you. You need to put this into real world perspective. Heck at 1080p a 1060 & 580 are more than capable cards so don't really see your point TBH.

I have a GTX 1070 and a Free-Sync screen, i'm not happy about that, nVidia's drivers are also problematic for me, they crash randomly when stressing my hardware in unusual applications like World Machine 2. i never had that problem with AMD.

I was looking forward to swapping the 1070 out for something like the Vega 56 but despite the nVidia driver issues and my Free-Synclessness with a Free-Sync screen i would be mad to swap the 1070 for the 56.

Look, i know about and agree with the nVidia Gamesworks crap, but Destiny 2 is a console game ported to PC, those consoles are 'AMD Inside'.

AMD need to do better, both with the hardware and they should be convincing developers not to use Gameworks. they need to grow some FFFFFFFFFFF teeth.
 
Destiny 2 is a Blizzard Activision title - most of their titles have tended to prefer Intel/Nvidia for a very long time(I think Overwatch might be one of the more even ones but I have not looked into this in any detail so might be wrong). Its the same with any UE4 based game - even though Epic Games looks to have gotten a bit closer to AMD more recently(Tim Sweeney was at the Vega launch IIRC),they still have a strong working partnership with Nvidia(just like DICE has with AMD) which has spanned many years.
 
I have a GTX 1070 and a Free-Sync screen, i'm not happy about that, nVidia's drivers are also problematic for me, they crash randomly when stressing my hardware in unusual applications like World Machine 2. i never had that problem with AMD.

I was looking forward to swapping the 1070 out for something like the Vega 56 but despite the nVidia driver issues and my Free-Synclessness with a Free-Sync screen i would be mad to swap the 1070 for the 56.

Look, i know about and agree with the nVidia Gamesworks crap, but Destiny 2 is a console game ported to PC, those consoles are 'AMD Inside'.

AMD need to do better, both with the hardware and they should be convincing developers not to use Gameworks. they need to grow some FFFFFFFFFFF teeth.

i would just sell the freesync monitor and go gsync. dont look like amd will be anywhere close to nvidia in a long while.
 
Destiny 2 is a Blizzard Activision title - most of their titles have tended to prefer Intel/Nvidia for a very long time(I think Overwatch might be one of the more even ones but I have not looked into this any detail). Its the same with any UE4 based game - even though Epic Games looks to have gotten a bit closer to AMD more recently(Tim Sweeney was at the Vega launch IIRC),they still have a strong working partnership with Nvidia(just like DICE has with AMD) which has spanned many years.

None of this would matter if they were more aggressive competitors.

AMD are just a bit timid, right now they have the power to really hurt Intel because for the first time in a decade they have properly competitive CPU's that they can produce cheaply, far more cheaply than Intel, while they are making life difficult for Intel they are not doing all they can to hurt them, its as if they are holding back from punching so hard they can feel the bones crack, AMD are lacking that bit of extra fight.
 
i would just sell the freesync monitor and go gsync. dont look like amd will be anywhere close to nvidia in a long while.

Adaptive Sync technology is not worth £150 over the cost of the standard screen, not when you're someone like me who doesn't have money to burn for fun.
 
Destiny 2.

Vega performance at 1080P can only be described as very bad for its price, the Air Cooled 64 is slower than the GTX 1070, a good margin slower.

It catches up and overtakes it slightly at 1440P and 4K but its still 10% + down on the GTX 1080 which costs the same money and is way more power efficient.

:(

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Wouldn't dig to deep into Destiny 2 Performance just yet after all it is a Beta and it has had Nvidia working closely so no surprise Nvidia performance out the gate is better. AMD Haven't yet released a performance driver for the game yet.. Just 17.8.2 says support for that could mean anything really.
 
Good luck. It does sound like a common problem with dodgy DP cables, that a monitor won't wake from sleep, from the Googling I did when I had the same issue.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that even el cheapo cable manufacturers could mess up something as simple as complying with the DP spec for pinouts... that really is impressive :p

Cable is here and plugged into monitor, other end is loose at the moment tho as will need to wait till I next reboot PC to test it, will test in bios.
 
None of this would matter if they were more aggressive competitors.

AMD are just a bit timid, right now they have the power to really hurt Intel because for the first time in a decade they have properly competitive CPU's that they can produce cheaply, far more cheaply than Intel, while they are making life difficult for Intel they are not doing all they can to hurt them, its as if they are holding back from punching so hard they can feel the bones crack, AMD are lacking that bit of extra fight.

Its probably down to money and the fact is they are only slightly larger than Nvidia in terms of personal and have their fingers in many pies. They are trying to compete with both Intel and Nvidia with a fraction of the combined personal and R and D budgets. AMD does not also help itself with some frankly weird decisions during launches either,but people have been saying this for years and at times I do think they seem a tad oblivious to things.
 
I have a GTX 1070 and a Free-Sync screen, i'm not happy about that, nVidia's drivers are also problematic for me, they crash randomly when stressing my hardware in unusual applications like World Machine 2. i never had that problem with AMD.

I was looking forward to swapping the 1070 out for something like the Vega 56 but despite the nVidia driver issues and my Free-Synclessness with a Free-Sync screen i would be mad to swap the 1070 for the 56.

Look, i know about and agree with the nVidia Gamesworks crap, but Destiny 2 is a console game ported to PC, those consoles are 'AMD Inside'.

AMD need to do better, both with the hardware and they should be convincing developers not to use Gameworks. they need to grow some FFFFFFFFFFF teeth.

It's a Beta, I'm sure AMD and Nvidia will have better drivers out by the time the game hits final release. The game is being optimised for Xbox One X (and PS4 pro) which means it's being coded on DX12, hopefully they can bring that over to the PC at down the road.
 
I tested the new DP cable, same problem.

Back on topic of the 56, if it can indeed be bios boosted to within 2% of 64 performance, then that helps the 56 as a product a lot in my opinion.
 
My 56 took the 64 air bios without even so much as a grumble or cough, it appears as a vega 64 to cpuz :p and the performance increase with no other changes in between was circa 10%

Buying Vega is doing just that. Burning money...

Cant agree with that, 56 looks like a very solid card. At £380 ish it kills the 1070 stone dead, it also gives the 1080 a very hard time after fiddling (ok i know you can also get other cards overclocked as well...) and thats all on a driver set that is still half baked and strewn with bugs..
Would be surprised if we look back at this in 6 months time where the 56 is the star £ to performance show. The 64 air doesnt look quite as good especially at the higher prices, and the liquid ...well its daft. But if you can get the air cards for the right price your on a winner.
 
My 56 took the 64 air bios without even so much as a grumble or cough, it appears as a vega 64 to cpuz :p and the performance increase with no other changes in between was circa 10%



Cant agree with that, 56 looks like a very solid card. At £380 ish it kills the 1070 stone dead, it also gives the 1080 a very hard time after fiddling (ok i know you can also get other cards overclocked as well...) and thats all on a driver set that is still half baked and strewn with bugs..
Would be surprised if we look back at this in 6 months time where the 56 is the star £ to performance show. The 64 air doesnt look quite as good especially at the higher prices, and the liquid ...well its daft. But if you can get the air cards for the right price your on a winner.

Where did you get the bios and how easy was it to update? Performance numbers would be good too.
 
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